PAM177h with an 036 movement from Davidsen?

[kidxer]

Hey guys,

I must say that I am somewhat reticent to ask this question for fear of being chastised by the diehards (this has happened on another board to me in the past when I suggested something not dissimilar…) but here goes.

What would you think about a Davidsen 177h with a 036 movement?

recall 177h:

versus 036:

My reasoning is as follows. I dislike the poor font and wrong positioning of the words “OFFICINE PANERAIâ€

 

[darksideuser121]

How about just buying the 36.
As far as give aways go there was never a 177 made with a B series movement.
I have the new 36 and it is really nice.

 

[kidxer]

How about just buying the 36.
As far as give aways go there was never a 177 made with a B series movement.
I have the new 36 and it is really nice.

Apologies, I forgot to mention that I really want a sandwich dial, too, hence the 177h.

Thanks

 

[Sylar]

Buy both and swap the dials and then keep the 177H and sell the other at a discount. I personally like the movement that comes with the 177H as it is more reliable on the long run.

 

[kidxer]

Buy both and swap the dials and then keep the 177H and sell the other at a discount. I personally like the movement that comes with the 177H as it is more reliable on the long run.

Not a bad idea. DSN has offered to do the swap at no cost for me though...

I'm intrigued by your 177h movement reliability comment, though. Can you elaborate?

Thanks

 

[watchlover]

More reliable? Me thinks not, but could be wrong.

Both are swiss, but the mov't on the 177H has a swan neck

The swan neck allows for better/precise regulation of the time (faster/slower)
AFAIK, that swan neck is the only diff. It's good for the one regulating your watch, but for you, it only serves as extra decoration

I think they are both equally reliable.

 

[horologie_unitas]

equal reliable, i agree...i personally like the H-version....with the additional bridge and cote-de' -geneve - decoration. if watch haa a solid case back....i wouldnt care whats in there !.....
cheers !

 

[Sylar]

watchlover explained it good. I was not doubing the movement on the 36 just stating that the reliability of the movement with the swan neck is the same. As far as the engravements of the movement if they are in the back and your not goig to be seeing them I would recomend to just get the 177H but depending on the type of person that you are it might but you knowing the fonts on the caseback are inacurate.

 

[kidxer]

Awesome... very informative replies

Thanks, guys!

 

[kidxer]

What a thoughtful reply. Thank-you.

I do recall reading somewhere that the 036 is a particularly well-built model. Would this be the same as going with an 036 with a 177 dial?

Thanks! [smilie=hello.gif]

I was going to say go with the PAM040 instead of an 036 but then you said Sandwich dial and so my idea was to have everything in an 036 but to choose the black dialed 040 ... uses the same case as the 036 which is one of the best TI's anyway due to the serial stamping variation.

As to the two different Swiss motors, I prefer the older one myself. Even with the Cote de Panerai cosmetic plates, (which can be peeled off, the ETA 6497 underneath is fully stock Swiss built motor. The Swiss H/I movement is also Swiss but has Chinese made Panerai custom bridges added to a Swiss base and so is rebuilt at some point to take on the PANERAI bridge look it sports. Say what you will be the lesser handled SWISS will always be the more reliable, of course glueing cosmetic plates onto the motor they can dump crud and such into the movement, it's just less of a chance.

Frankly the Generic ETA bridged movements are my real favourites. These do well hidden under solid back cases and tend to run without a single issue.

Saying all that, last night I did have a chance to view a DSN 036 motor and an 036 from about a year old and the DSN is visually a treat in comparision. They are nearly identical, but the finish on the plates and screws on the DSN are really impressive when you approach the concept of comparing to an original GEN motor.

The PAM036 has always been a very accurate REP. Generally requiring only dial attentions, and I'd say the DSN has matched this and improved on some important points. T SWISS T on the dial, no Cannon Recess part kludge, a detail caseset, the nicest visual rep motor for accuracy. I would suggest a relume on the dial (The same suggestion on the older 036's prior to DSN,) but that's it ... pick out a strap you like of course ... even there those DSN Buffalo grain straps with the new Ti PreA buckle are just very clean and nice.

 

[moggio]

with this question..im tempted...please..i love 036...still need to save some more money for it

good luck and enjoy ur 036

thanks enzo for the great details view

 

[JOEJOEJOE]

Hey guys,

I must say that I am somewhat reticent to ask this question for fear of being chastised by the diehards (this has happened on another board to me in the past when I suggested something not dissimilar…) but here goes.

What would you think about a Davidsen 177h with a 036 movement?

My reasoning is as follows. I dislike the poor font and wrong positioning of the words “OFFICINE PANERAIâ€