pam111 vsf or hwf the one to get? noob is out of stock?

[jasonsouza77]

Hi ALe and panerai fans of rwi, wrote this as a pm but ALe's mailbox is full . any help wil be greatly appreciated
hi Ale.
hope you have been well. i remember years back i asked u advice regarding getting a pam 111 and i decided to get the noob version. you even helped me to check the qc pictures to confirm that everything is in check. thanks so much for that. unfortunately abt 1 or 2 years after owning that piece i had to sell it as well as all of my other rolex and tudor reps to raise funds for personal reasons. now i feel like getting it again but i noticed that at the TD chazingtime, they only have VSF and HWF versions and the noob has been discontinued? ive been out of the rep game for years but seems like ive caught the bug yet again. also is it true that a2813 movements have been discontinued? thought of getting a vintage submariner but seems like all the TDs are out of A2813 movements. hmmmm. ummmm so in your opinion is the VSF or HWF the one to get please? thank you

jason

 

[andy-theclock]

Hi Jason,

Trusty Time has got the Noob V12 in stock - in a special offer.
Take a look there

 

[Toscano]

Good evening everyone
New to this world since I discovered this forum my eyes lit up and I started to fear for my finances

However not to waste time: I write in this tread to avoid opening posts that may be useless for the more experienced.

What is VSF or HWF Replication? I would like to buy a PAM 005 or PAM 111 as faithful as possible to the original.
Obviously, knowing full well that it won't be identical, I'd like to be able to eliminate the small differences with jobs after it arrives. Thanks for the reply.

Regards

Federico from Italy

 

[mauroperezp]

Good evening everyone
New to this world since I discovered this forum my eyes lit up and I started to fear for my finances

However not to waste time: I write in this tread to avoid opening posts that may be useless for the more experienced.

What is VSF or HWF Replication? I would like to buy a PAM 005 or PAM 111 as faithful as possible to the original.
Obviously, knowing full well that it won't be identical, I'd like to be able to eliminate the small differences with jobs after it arrives. Thanks for the reply.

Regards

Federico from Italy

Hi Federico. VSF and HWF are different factories. I personally would recommend VSF more. You could compare some models from both factories but odds are that today most of PAMS models are VSF. Great factory BTW.

 

[Toscano]

Hi Federico. VSF and HWF are different factories. I personally would recommend VSF more. You could compare some models from both factories but odds are that today most of PAMS models are VSF. Great factory BTW.

Hi mauroperezp,
Thank you very much for the explanation!
If I understand correctly, I will have to buy my watch from a trusted dealers and not directly from the manufacturing factory.
How do I know which seller sells replicas from the factory I've chosen for the watch model I'm looking for?
Do I have to ask the seller directly or are there particular acronyms that identify it?

Thank you

regards

Federico

 

[Karbon74]

all TD can get most watches.

Noob Factory is a bit special as they closed some time ago and sort of reopened recently...but some say not to the same quality

I never saw anyone complain about VSF, which is currently making among the best reps. Personnally I got a HWF PAM once but I did not like the finish.

Also I recommend that you spend some time reading the Newbie stickies. It might seem tedious, but you will need some minimal knowledge before you can really get the best of the advice that members can give

@Feefo and @eBoy will certainly post the links here once they spot your new post.

 

[Toscano]

all TD can get most watches.

Noob Factory is a bit special as they closed some time ago and sort of reopened recently...but some say not to the same quality

I never saw anyone complain about VSF, which is currently making among the best reps. Personnally I got a HWF PAM once but I did not like the finish.

Also I recommend that you spend some time reading the Newbie stickies. It might seem tedious, but you will need some minimal knowledge before you can really get the best of the advice that members can give

@Feefo and @eBoy will certainly post the links here once they spot your new post.

Thank you very much for the explanation!
In fact I'm spending a lot of time on posts for newbies!
I find them very useful and clarifying the many doubts that belong to me.
Often, however, reading them I have to admit that they give me other doubts!

So if I understand correctly, do I have to ask the seller to get me a watch from a specific factory?
Thanks for the help

Regards

Federico

 

[Karbon74]

Thank you very much for the explanation!
In fact I'm spending a lot of time on posts for newbies!
I find them very useful and clarifying the many doubts that belong to me.
Often, however, reading them I have to admit that they give me other doubts!

So if I understand correctly, do I have to ask the seller to get me a watch from a specific factory?
Thanks for the help

Regards

Federico

yes.

I recommend you check out Chazingtime and Jtime. Their websites are pretty good and easy to use. Does not mean you you have to order there, just that the websites are good.

Once you have a short list of what you want, search for threads of people talking about those models. I can guarantee that someone else already asked the same questions you may have.

when you decided, email the TD to ask if they can get the watch.

ALWAYS check the website and the email from this forum. Don't google for contacts, there are a lot of scam sites that pretend they are a TD.

last piece of advice, keep your email to TD short, precise and courteous. Most will not help you choose, that's not their job.

 

[Toscano]

yes.

I recommend you check out Chazingtime and Jtime. Their websites are pretty good and easy to use. Does not mean you you have to order there, just that the websites are good.

Once you have a short list of what you want, search for threads of people talking about those models. I can guarantee that someone else already asked the same questions you may have.

when you decided, email the TD to ask if they can get the watch.

ALWAYS check the website and the email from this forum. Don't google for contacts, there are a lot of scam sites that pretend they are a TD.

last piece of advice, keep your email to TD short, precise and courteous. Most will not help you choose, that's not their job.

Perfect!
You have been very clear.
Yes, I certainly won't ask retailers for clarification... I'll rather clog up the forum for this!!!
Thanks again for the help!

Regards


Federico

 

[Feefo]

Perfect!
You have been very clear.
Yes, I certainly won't ask retailers for clarification... I'll rather clog up the forum for this!!!
Thanks again for the help!

Regards


Federico

Hi and welcome to RWI! Glad you found your way here.

I see you already got loads of advice from @Karbon74 .

Please take some time to read the sticky threads in the new members area (all subsections), learn the basic forum rules and get some very good advice in the process. A number of questions has already been answered there, this is just an example:

Quick links to some of the more prevalent rules of the forum.

The First Constitution of RWI https://forum.replica-watch.info/for...itution-of-rwi QC Rules https://forum.replica-watch.info/for...tle-on-qc-pics https://forum.replica-watch.info/for...of-qc-pictures Glamour pics https://forum.replica-watch.info/for...r-pics-and-rwi Multiple Accounts...

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As a new subscriber, you've already been directed to this thread, please read carefully and look through the linked additional threads:

You are welcome

If you've just joined and are reading this, welcome to RWI. If you stop here, or read just the next few lines, that's on YOU, but don't ever say you weren't warned. If you are approached by ANYONE, absolutely ANYONE, offering you a watch, or a deal, via Private Message (PM), exercise common...

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Another good thread to read to understand where RWI comes from and some fundamentals is this:

https://forum.replica-watch.info/threads/the-first-constitution-of-rwi.51989/

Most of the information you need to know to start is there. If you're preparing to buy, read the stickies before ordering. When you're finished, you can continue learning by reading the stickies in all remaining sections. If it's stickied, it's important information.

If you intend to sell, read the sales rules and all stickies in the sales section with particular care and make sure you understand each single rule. Sales rules infraction is taken very seriously here. As a new member you are not eligible to sell. Using the sales section is a privilege, eligibility must be earned, make sure you know and understand how.

For anything else, feel free to reach out to @eBoy or me, we're happy to assist, advise, direct, explain. Don't hesitate.

Don't be afraid to post noob questions in the new members area. In doubt, use the flame free zone. If you feel uncomfortable anywhere in the new members area, please reach out to @eBoy or me. Mutual respect is of utmost importance to us. On the other hand, we're grown-ups and are supposed to be able to deal with a bit of irony, don't take it personally, ever, a bit of irony never harmed anyone. If you laugh at jokes, you'll make friends faster.

This forum is a treasure trove of information and benefits from the engagement of all members who take their time to share their knowledge, help each other out and have some fun. We hope that you'll benefit and enjoy this platform as well as contribute positively to it.

If at any point you feel to contribute also on another level, feel free to pm the boss (trailboss99) to become a supporter and get some little perks with the status (editing rights, for example).

Enjoy the forum.

 

[Toscano]

Thank you!
I will try to follow all your advice!
Thank you very much!!!

Regards

Federico

 

[mauroperezp]

Thank you!
I will try to follow all your advice!
Thank you very much!!!

Regards

Federico

Just a tip: use the contact info and websites posted on the Trusted Dealers sections. NEVER google them as the web is full of scams.

 

[Toscano]

Perfect!
I'd say it will be even easier to find dealer sites!

Regards

Federico

 

[Reaps]

Hont does VSF (also known as XF) Pam 111 for $218 usd or around 200 euros, free shipping, I got mine from him! Good luck my friend.

 

[Karbon74]

or you can also go fancy

 

[Toscano]

Hont does VSF (also known as XF) Pam 111 for $218 usd or around 200 euros, free shipping, I got mine from him! Good luck my friend.

Thanks for the tip.
I went looking on the section dedicated to that retailer in the forum but I didn't find your post with pictures of the watch.
I probably haven't been able to find them...
Were you satisfied with the purchase? would it be too rude to ask you to publish them?

Regards

Federico

 

[Toscano]

or you can also go fancy

Definitely remarkable! I don't rule out assembling a fancy watch in the future but in that case I would do it without logos, or I would invent one myself...

Regards


Federico

 

[Reaps]

Thanks for the tip.
I went looking on the section dedicated to that retailer in the forum but I didn't find your post with pictures of the watch.
I probably haven't been able to find them...
Were you satisfied with the purchase? would it be too rude to ask you to publish them?

Regards

Federico

Hontwatch

Everyone knows Hont, one of the oldest of the forum dealers. https://s.wsxc.cn/TJUCP1

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Do you have Whatsapp? Hont doesn't really update his website.

Below the words "Everyone knows Hont, one of the oldest of the forum dealers.", there is a website.

Go to the website, you see his whatsapp number in the top right.

Just contact him on Whatsapp and ask for XF Pam 111 for $218usd/$200 euro.

You can read his reviews, people post their experience, I suggest you do some reading on it. Good luck!

 

[Toscano]

Hontwatch

Everyone knows Hont, one of the oldest of the forum dealers. https://s.wsxc.cn/TJUCP1

forum.replica-watch.info

Do you have Whatsapp? Hont doesn't really update his website.

Below the words "Everyone knows Hont, one of the oldest of the forum dealers.", there is a website.

Go to the website, you see his whatsapp number in the top right.

Just contact him on Whatsapp and ask for XF Pam 111 for $218usd/$200 euro.

You can read his reviews, people post their experience, I suggest you do some reading on it. Good luck!

sorry, I didn't express myself clearly.
I found the section reserved for the hontwatch seller.
I did not find your post where you told the purchase.
I was convinced that all purchases were told by including photos of the watches.
Did the watch you bought satisfy you?
is it very different from the original?

regards

Federico

 

[Reaps]

sorry, I didn't express myself clearly.
I found the section reserved for the hontwatch seller.
I did not find your post where you told the purchase.
I was convinced that all purchases were told by including photos of the watches.
Did the watch you bought satisfy you?
is it very different from the original?

regards

Federico

XF Factory PAM 111 Made 1:1 Comparison With Gen Now Available

XF Factory has just released their PAM 111 They have made it 1:1 with the gen, and they have made the movement similar like the gen with the shock absorber feature.

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I don't really review TDs, but I have purchased this model from him.