Pam111 identification

[Pene75]

Hi guys ! I need your help on this one.

Can you confirm that it’s a real Noob V11 ( I think that it’s a V10)

I don't know much about Pam’s :/

Thanks ????

 

[Woundup]

What makes you believe that this is a V10 over a V11? Or even a noob...?

 

[jibuti]

I can only confirm it is salty-beaten-badly-taken-care-of V-something 111. Showing pics like those is just disgrace.

 

[Pene75]

What makes you believe that this is a V10 over a V11? Or even a noob...?

I don’t know, that’s why I’m asking ! ^^

 

[ALE7575]

With such a pics it is almost impossible to tell the maker and version
We would need case pics from 6 , 12, 3 , 9 hrs. and CG pics seeing the shape of the CG lever

But there is a suspicious detail. Your watch has a shock absorber NOVODIAC instead of Regular INCABLOC. This shock absorber was no used in Noob or good quality reps. Good Noob versions always had Regular INCABLOC system and from the end of 2015 had rep Y shaped INCABLOC. Really weird

ALE

 

[KOT1917]

It's in the order of things , ALE7575 !

I have seen a number of PAM111 P series noobs, probably sold in the V10 - 11 period with a novodiac.
Not sure about the reasons and origin, but this is the case.
If you look at the spokes of the balance wheel, you can get pretty confused in general.

Turning to TC, I would like to mention that the differences of the V10 / V11 are significantly less significant than this shortcoming. Bad CP, but a long micrometer screw suggested that it was V10, but believe me, in case PAM111, it really isn't as important as what you see or what you see.

 

[ALE7575]

It's in the order of things , ALE7575 !

I have seen a number of PAM111 P series noobs, probably sold in the V10 - 11 period with a novodiac.
Not sure about the reasons and origin, but this is the case.
If you look at the spokes of the balance wheel, you can get pretty confused in general.

Turning to TC, I would like to mention that the differences of the V10 / V11 are significantly less significant than this shortcoming. Bad CP, but a long micrometer screw suggested that it was V10, but believe me, in case PAM111, it really isn't as important as what you see or what you see.

I think you are right
Noob's last fabrications were inconsistent and chaotic, no clear or valid conclusions can be drawn

ALE

 

[Pene75]

Thank for your knowledge guys,
the dial is full of dust, I will not take it.

 

[Tucker]

I don’t know, that’s why I’m asking ! ^^

I thought starting with the V4 Noob used the correct incabloc. The watch you pictured does not have the correct incabloc. I’d say it’s an old version and maybe not even a Noob. If it’s being offered for sale I’d pass.