PAM factory and version check

[Kolosovsky]

Hey guys!

Is it possible having these photos to define the factory and version if any?
Thanks!

 

[KOT1917]

Good day.

No, there is no possibility here to talk about the version and the factory, this is something quite old, and the factory did not have any names then.
Also later, cheap reps using these parts may still pop up, including the dial and backcase with the H series, it is still the most common on the cheap 111.

I suppose 111 might make sense to be rated according to the version and factory at least with the M series, because almost everything that came before that (except for the sausage dials) is of no particular value today, except for some punitive ones, which can be a good basis for individual builds in terms of case shape.

 

[Kolosovsky]

Good day.

No, there is no possibility here to talk about the version and the factory, this is something quite old, and the factory did not have any names then.
Also later, cheap reps using these parts may still pop up, including the dial and backcase with the H series, it is still the most common on the cheap 111.

I suppose 111 might make sense to be rated according to the version and factory at least with the M series, because almost everything that came before that (except for the sausage dials) is of no particular value today, except for some punitive ones, which can be a good basis for individual builds in terms of case shape.

Thanks mate for such detailed reply!

So assuming all mentioned above the cost could be around hundred bucks?

 

[granvino]

Good day.

No, there is no possibility here to talk about the version and the factory, this is something quite old, and the factory did not have any names then.
Also later, cheap reps using these parts may still pop up, including the dial and backcase with the H series, it is still the most common on the cheap 111.

I suppose 111 might make sense to be rated according to the version and factory at least with the M series, because almost everything that came before that (except for the sausage dials) is of no particular value today, except for some punitive ones, which can be a good basis for individual builds in terms of case shape.

As far as I remember there was a Noob 111 'J' of very high quality but also a H Fac 005 'K' which I had and to this date I regret selling!

 

[Kolosovsky]

What are the flaws here?

 

[Kolosovsky]

Found this version on some nonTD site with ridiculous price. The H number is the same.

Discount PM11101 Panerai PAM 111 LEATHER H SERIES ASIAN SWISS - ReplicaOthers Watches (replicaswatches.co)

 

[KOT1917]

Thanks mate for such detailed reply!

So assuming all mentioned above the cost could be around hundred bucks?

I think this is the maximum value when compared to the price / quality of newer versions.

If the appearance suits, then a new, unused branded watch at 6497 for $ 100 is normal.

But for me personally, it would not be a good buy.

 

[KOT1917]

As far as I remember there was a Noob 111 'J' of very high quality but also a H Fac 005 'K' which I had and to this date I regret selling!

Glad to see a "witness of antiquity" in this kind of discussion!
Yes, the J series that was probably considered V2 (V2,5?) Is what I mentioned, as not a bad base.

We must agree that there are models that were excellent in the old editions, and there are those that, at least up to a certain point, were only better and better. And this is the case with 111, when the V5, for example, deprives the meaning of everything that was done by them before it.