pam california that's on sale on ryans site

[godhanded]

it's just too friggin hard to tell the versions of watches apart. They're all listed as "best"... or 1:1 ... these terms mean nothing. Frustrating...

this version is on sale on Ryan's site

http://www.intime.co/product.php?id_product=1823

is it a quality watch? is it falling behind? any way to compare it?

 

[godhanded]

here's another example

http://pure-time.com/search/?searchstring=pam448&x=0&y=0

I mean... anyone else hate that these are all so similar? One has sapphire. Should I go for the sapphire one, or is plexiglass... ?

 

[Teris]

here's another example

http://pure-time.com/search/?searchstring=pam448&x=0&y=0

I mean... anyone else hate that these are all so similar? One has sapphire. Should I go for the sapphire one, or is plexiglass... ?

Can't help you with this particular model, but I've found it helpful that pure time lists the date they added the watch to the site. I usually check that with ALE's reference guide before buying to make sure I'm getting the right one.

 

[godhanded]

good idea

 

[kilowattore]

The one linked from intime is a ZF, those linked frome puretime are, same order as displayed, SF, SF, ZF, not good, not good.
It's listed in the page title/watch description

The SF is very slightly better imho, but it seems it's out of stock atm.
There are a few thread about it, including my review

 

[fredl187]

I ordered mine a few days ago ... no chance to get a SF at the moment...now I am on a ZF. hope to receive qc pics tonight.

looking forward to them...but the described differences are hard to spot on qc pics, are they?

is there any thread zf vs sf?

best, fredl

 

[superfolex]

Wheres ALE when we need him?


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[M.Jules]

Toro has the same too!

Stunning watch with the latest version of the P.3000 movement

 

[superfolex]

U guys think the 449 will also go this low?


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[ebzen02]

I hope so

 

[d4m.test]

U guys think the 449 will also go this low?


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the 449 has an obvious tell on the dial. The 448, however, is a REALLY nice rep.

 

[Replied]

Hi, Toro version is SF or ZF? and, what are the difference between sf and zf?

B.R.

Toro has the same too!

Stunning watch with the latest version of the P.3000 movement

 

[fire007]

Hi, Toro version is SF or ZF? and, what are the difference between sf and zf?

B.R.

dude ! this is annoying ! this question has been asked 10,000 times ! and answered 10,000 times, please refer to Ale guide

 

[jacobkr]

i think it is going to be my next watch

 

[timeonmyside]

My California I skimped and got the plexiglass. I should have paid a little bit extra to get the sapphire. The plexi doesnt scratch easily but if you bump it on accident pretty good like Ive done once I see a slight scratch. I just have to be more careful now.

i dont knw if you can see the scratch in the pic. its not noticable in person, but to me i see it....
http://forum.replica-watch.info/vb/showthread.php/209961-New-Malio-Strap-on-my-California-249

 

[timeonmyside]

if you look close you can see the scratches & dings on the plexi right around center of the photo...

 

[wolfwood]

My California I skimped and got the plexiglass. I should have paid a little bit extra to get the sapphire. The plexi doesnt scratch easily but if you bump it on accident pretty good like Ive done once I see a slight scratch. I just have to be more careful now.

i dont knw if you can see the scratch in the pic. its not noticable in person, but to me i see it....
http://forum.replica-watch.info/vb/showthread.php/209961-New-Malio-Strap-on-my-California-249

Where did you see a sapphire option for the SF?

 

[timeonmyside]

I have a seller in HK that I buy from. Found him on the internet before I found the forums here and all the rep dealers. He gave me the option and I should have done the sapphire. Ohh well. Sure I can order it and figure out how to install it.

 

[Replied]

Dear fire007, thank you for your education and for your no-information. Ale's guide talk about Toro SF version and clone 2 movement. Now Toro have de 448 with clone 3 movement, but I don't really know if it is SF or ZF.

Could you, or anybody help?

B.R.

dude ! this is annoying ! this question has been asked 10,000 times ! and answered 10,000 times, please refer to Ale guide

 

[timeonmyside]

I should study the guides as I have no idea what version mine is. I bought based on HQ photos.