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PAM 682 ZF

klockjohan

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Just saw this one at INTIME
Looks like it has a more correct flat case back than XF.

 

mysterio

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Not enough resolution on your photo. Here's a bigger one with the same photo for the XF.

ZF
pam682-luminor-submersible-zf-1-1-best-edition-on-black-rubber-strap-p9010free-leather-strap-and-the-tool.jpg

XF
pam682-luminor-submersible-xf-1-1-best-edition-on-black-rubber-strap-p9010-v2.jpg


From these pictures it does look like that ZF has a thinner caseback than the ZF. Also the ads state XF is 16.5mm thick while ZF is 15.5mm thick. It may only be 1mm thinner, but that's a 6% reduction in thickness.
 

Repworld

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How accurate ZF compare to Gen , I wish Get Side By Side Near


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klockjohan

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Not enough resolution on your photo. Here's a bigger one with the same photo for the XF.

ZF
pam682-luminor-submersible-zf-1-1-best-edition-on-black-rubber-strap-p9010free-leather-strap-and-the-tool.jpg

XF
pam682-luminor-submersible-xf-1-1-best-edition-on-black-rubber-strap-p9010-v2.jpg


From these pictures it does look like that ZF has a thinner caseback than the ZF. Also the ads state XF is 16.5mm thick while ZF is 15.5mm thick. It may only be 1mm thinner, but that's a 6% reduction in thickness.


Also the bezel on ZF looks more genlike. A bit wider than the XF.

ZF
pam682-luminor-submersible-zf-1-1-best-edition-on-black-rubber-strap-p9010free-leather-strap-and-the-tool.jpg

XF
IMG_0204-2.jpg

GEN
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mysterio

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Also the bezel on ZF looks more genlike. A bit wider than the XF.

ZF
pam682-luminor-submersible-zf-1-1-best-edition-on-black-rubber-strap-p9010free-leather-strap-and-the-tool.jpg

XF
IMG_0204-2.jpg

Without an actual measurement, it just might be our eyes. Unlike the caseback which is clearly thinner on the ZF.
 

SuperLory

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Good news I can buy it soon [emoji1]

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Repworld

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Waiting side by side, its look like ZF purchase Gen


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pf78

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its a hugggggge improvement on the bezel!

looks like i have to sell my XF soon....


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iPisi70

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its a hugggggge improvement on the bezel!

looks like i have to sell my XF soon....


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Don't do it.
XF looks much closer to GEN than ZF in compare dial width / bezel width ratio. (measured and calculated from available pictures)
 

Repworld

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Don't do it.
XF looks much closer to GEN than ZF in compare dial width / bezel width ratio. (measured and calculated from available pictures)

Waiting side by side ZF with Gen , ZF bought Gen Sample


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pf78

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Don't do it.
XF looks much closer to GEN than ZF in compare dial width / bezel width ratio. (measured and calculated from available pictures)
can you explain a bit more about that?
 

pf78

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to me ZF's bezel is more [fat]
below is gen
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and XF
IMG_0217.jpg
 

Repworld

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I wish ZF purchase pam661 , they have correct movement thick will be Great


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Repworld

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No Gen Sample = No super Rep


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iPisi70

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can you explain a bit more about that?

OK, I looked at the proportion of bezel width on all three models and XF looks to GEN for me than ZF.
I measured than Outside Diameter of bezel and O.D. of xtal.
I got bezel / xtal O.D. ratio. When we assume that O.D. of all models will be 100 mm than:
  • GEN bezel is aprox 10.7 mm
  • XF is close 10.5 mm
  • ZF is 11.6 mm
ZF is definitely fatter, but I don't think it is closer to GEN than XF.

It is my thoughts. PM me, if you will let XF go.
 

SuperLory

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I haven't seen nor handled the gen obviously (seems like only the internal team and some pr did) but I've handled my friend's xf rep and it looked somehow really odd and I couldn't pinpoint exactly where but I guess it was the bezel/dial proportion. If gen is like xf then it's an odd watch imho.

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pf78

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I haven't seen nor handled the gen obviously (seems like only the internal team and some pr did) but I've handled my friend's xf rep and it looked somehow really odd and I couldn't pinpoint exactly where but I guess it was the bezel/dial proportion. If gen is like xf then it's an odd watch imho.

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some pics of gen (found on google) looks a bit odd too, maybe its the not-too-ordinary size


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iPisi70

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This would be personal preferences and impressions, I believe those are not such horrible :bigwink:.
There are two more points:
  • CP on ZF looks to me too big, XF is closer to GEN
  • However overall thickness of ZF case plays big role as well
 

pf78

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This would be personal preferences and impressions, I believe those are not such horrible :bigwink:.
There are two more points:
  • CP on ZF looks to me too big, XF is closer to GEN
  • However overall thickness of ZF case plays big role as well

ZF is a clear winner on the caseback, not too sure about the bezel though

i think we will know more when theres a full review on the ZF


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