Pam 616 - vsf or xf???

[Time87]

Hi all..
I been searching for more info regards to pam 616 on which factory has the best but somewhat..
The search function didn't lead me to the answer..

I was reading a thread for Pam 616 specifically made by XF but no verdict.

Can anyone share with me on which is a good buy?

Also, I been trying to find QC pictures through this forum but to no avail too..

Pls help..
Thanks ya!!!

 

[d4m.test]

Believe the VSF one is on the super rep list pending approval as it needs more reviews.
and I would not go looking for QC photos of other peoples watch as when you purchase you'll have
your own QC sent to you from what I've learnt browsing watches not one watch is the same as some could have
different problems that others do not have while others wont.

 

[mysterio]

Essentially they are the same watch (dunno why VSF and XF don't talk considering they are the same company. Releasing the same model under their respective banners simply does not make sense :facepalm: ). Just make sure that the PAM616 you are purchasing has more than 2 layers.

 

[muiramas]

I have just ordered the VSF from Sead. It's a real "mid life crisis" of a watch. Will update with QC pics when received.

 

[Time87]

I have just ordered the VSF from Sead. It's a real "mid life crisis" of a watch. Will update with QC pics when received.

i ordered it too... haa...

 

[muiramas]

Hello, as promised above, here are pics of my incoming VSF616.
Note that the watch is already approved and on its way to me - I'm not asking for QC help like a noob!


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[d4m.test]

My vsf v2 is epic good. It’s also been keeping +-1 second a WEEK since I got it.

 

[d4m.test]

I was told that the VSF makes the PAM 616 watch with independantly hour hand adjustment function, so I ordered one from one of my trusted dealer replica store. However it seems there is a problem with this kind of movement. Though the hour hand can be adjusted independantly, the movement does not seems to be stable. The crown seems have problem figure out all the positions. I fully wound the watch, but does not keep time. Then I asked my supplier, they told me the movement has been adjusted to work like original. therefore the movement won't be as stable as before. So my suggestion is, if you would like the watch works exactly as original, then you can try SF factory. If you want a stable watch, stay with XF factory. XF still makes the best replica.

 

[mysterio]

I was told that the VSF makes the PAM 616 watch with independantly hour hand adjustment function, so I ordered one from one of my trusted dealer replica store. However it seems there is a problem with this kind of movement. Though the hour hand can be adjusted independantly, the movement does not seems to be stable. The crown seems have problem figure out all the positions. I fully wound the watch, but does not keep time. Then I asked my supplier, they told me the movement has been adjusted to work like original. therefore the movement won't be as stable as before. So my suggestion is, if you would like the watch works exactly as original, then you can try SF factory. If you want a stable watch, stay with XF factory. XF still makes the best replica.

Seeing as you just joined yesterday (so it means you bought the watch way before), I got a newsflash for you, VSF and XF are essentially the same factory (don't ask me why they did what they did, I don't own the factory, that's just the way V6F set up their new operations coming off the KW factory naming). I don't know who your Trusted Dealer is but to say that it was adjusted to work like the original movement and then it's the reason why it isn't stable is confusing to say the least. The watch isn't meant to be wound as it is an automatic watch, not a manual wind. Just move the crown a few times to start the movement, the rest is up to kinetic energy as it winds the watch through the rotor.

If you like the SF version, go ahead, but as it uses a different clone movement, the subdial post is slightly offset so aesthetically it is not accurate in terms of dial construction as even the V6F PAM616 with the two layer Carbotech.

 

[muiramas]

I was told that the VSF makes the PAM 616 watch with independantly hour hand adjustment function, so I ordered one from one of my trusted dealer replica store. However it seems there is a problem with this kind of movement. Though the hour hand can be adjusted independantly, the movement does not seems to be stable. The crown seems have problem figure out all the positions. I fully wound the watch, but does not keep time. Then I asked my supplier, they told me the movement has been adjusted to work like original. therefore the movement won't be as stable as before. So my suggestion is, if you would like the watch works exactly as original, then you can try SF factory. If you want a stable watch, stay with XF factory. XF still makes the best replica.

I didn't (don't) think the clone movement offers the independent hour hand change.

I've also never seen any red flags about this movement or the cloned gmt.