PAM 411-420 vs later released cities (KW/V6F)

[subliminal]

I believe, the original PAM REVIEW-GUIDE came out after PAM 411-420 came out, but before these models did:

PAM 456 "Saudi"
PAM 464 "Las Vegas"
PAM 546 "Istanbul"
PAM 593 "ChengDu"

As such, PAM 411-420 are on all of the super rep lists, but these ones are not. I was under the impression that PAM 411-420 and these four are identical with the exception of having a different themed caseback engraving. Other than the timing of when these came out in relation to the guide, is there a reason these ones are not on any super rep list? Should they be on the super reps lists?

I would appreciate if any experts such as @ALE7575 or @mysterio could chime in.

Thank you!

 

[nexezz]

All of them have the same case, movement and dial with only the car back being different from each other.

Why would a factory make a new case for each of these watches if they can just make one and be done with the whole deal?

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[subliminal]

I agree, but I asked this in the consensus NWBIG Super rep thread and was told there has not been consensus on these models. That’s why I’m posting the question here.

 

[erekose]

I agree, but I asked this in the consensus NWBIG Super rep thread and was told there has not been consensus on these models. That’s why I’m posting the question here.

They are all the same...so the rating would be the same for all.

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[Keyblue]

It had always been a goal for me to collect all these casebacks and switch them up depending on which city I travel to.
Too bad many of these are unavailable or out of stock at least according to my dealer.

 

[mysterio]

It had always been a goal for me to collect all these casebacks and switch them up depending on which city I travel to.
Too bad many of these are unavailable or out of stock at least according to my dealer.

Tried that tactic but no go as well. :lol:

It is correct that it would be foolish to expect the factory to make anything new for these watches except the caseback. However, these are said to be made by V6F, although it is called KW before, there might have been some changes. Also another potential issue is the previous brown dial issue that was found with some boutique watches. It was corrected but there is no way to know unless you have the watch on hand. I would have to look at photos of the actual reps themselves (if not have the watch on hand to review).

 

[Shikari]

Tried that tactic but no go as well. [emoji38]

It is correct that it would be foolish to expect the factory to make anything new for these watches except the caseback. However, these are said to be made by V6F, although it is called KW before, there might have been some changes. Also another potential issue is the previous brown dial issue that was found with some boutique watches. It was corrected but there is no way to know unless you have the watch on hand. I would have to look at photos of the actual reps themselves (if not have the watch on hand to review).

My 411 from v6f has the correct black dial. Not the brownish issue from some years ago.

 

[mysterio]

My 411 from v6f has the correct black dial. Not the brownish issue from some years ago.

Like I said, the brown dial reported on the earlier models (411-420) had already been confirmed to be corrected. But we don't have any significant sample data on the later released models.

 

[subliminal]

Like I said, the brown dial reported on the earlier models (411-420) had already been confirmed to be corrected. But we don't have any significant sample data on the later released models.

There are several PAM 464s in this thread and every one of them are black dials:

https://forum.replica-watch.info/th...ted-edition-clean-out-stock-offer-129.370145/

Have there been any reports of one of the newer cities arriving with a brown dial? How many correct 464s constitute significant sample data?

Thanks @mysterio I appreciate you taking the time to discuss this.

 

[Skynet3132]

I have a 464 Vegas and a 417 New York edition from that TB linked post. both have the black dial and the price is an absolute steal!