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Pam 243L Noob with a modified Genuine Swiss ETA-7750 25J movement (US$ 798!!???)

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just get the a7750. its a good movement, especially since the 243 has only sec@9 without the chronos, making it quite reliable.
 

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That movement alone is $400+. So just ask yourself if that's something you consider valuable. It's not an outrageous price by any means.
 

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I'm not sure that I would agree that the A7750 is reliable. It's actually one of the worst movements the replicas use. The ones I know of personally have not had a good record, my own included. If this is a genuine swiss ETA 7750 then this is actually a good deal.
 

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I would get the Asian, if you really love it, you can always upgrade on your own a year later, by purchasing a Swiss movement.
Would rather know my source of the ETA movement and the overall cost is not any more, so I would say these ETA 7750 dealer prices are no bargins.
Very few are made/sold so they charge a high price for them figuring there is a small percenatge of buyers that will just buy the best without doing much research.
 

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I'm not sure that I would agree that the A7750 is reliable. It's actually one of the worst movements the replicas use. The ones I know of personally have not had a good record, my own included. If this is a genuine swiss ETA 7750 then this is actually a good deal.

I've always thought that the unreliability from a7750's stemmed from the chrono functions.
 

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I also see in the Puretime ad. for the this baby that they write about a 'modified' Swiss 7750 movement. I Don't like the sound of that--at least not without very precise information on how the word 'modified' is defined. Having said that, my success with Puretime is running 100%, and I have a 243 en route as we speak, so maybe my caution is just pure jealousy :cry:
 

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So far , what I understand is that it's worth the extra 500$ because it's more reliable in keeping time and lasting for years or something...
I believe that it's better to have a better movement at the time you buy the watch.
Sending it over to a mod to change the movement and then back to me it's gonna cost me some extra money which I think it's better to spend them at the first place..

argh...damn 800$..i think i'm gonna have to skip the JLC Navy Seals in order to afford the Pam....
 

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Well, with all due respect to Angus, I'd never trust any TD's marketing without validating it myself, first hand. There is no chance you will be able to prove to yourself that the movement is a real Swiss and also verify the quality of any "modifications" they may or may have not done on the original movement - not until you after you've paid all of your 800$ for the watch, waited for a few weeks to receive it, opened the caseback, took the movement out, examined it for authenticity and quality (it could be used, assembled from multiple broken Swiss movements, one of these Swenese monsters with multiple Chinese parts installed in a used Swiss movement, or real Swiss but modified with Chinese part of poor manufacturing quality, lacking oil etc etc etc etc). I'd take the liberty to assume you are new to these and probably not well versed or experienced enough to do any of the above, hence you will have to quickly find a watchsmith whom you trust, who will have to do it for you. Depending on the results of the said inspections, you may have to go back to Angus and try to argue and return the watch, claiming the movement is not up to scratch etc etc. Imagine trying to pull this - and I doubt you will reach an agreement as this is really a subjective view of you/your watchsmith, unless of course, the claim of using a Swiss movement is a blatant lie, it wont be easy. Hence I am with the others - buy the Asian, wear it for a year or so while trying to see if you could make a connection with a decent watchsmiths in your area, and then see if you like the watch well enough to invest 350-400$ into a proper, clean, oiled Swiss movement from a legit source and only then ask your trusted watchsmith to swap the movements. This way you have 100% satisfaction guarantee, know where your parts come from and dont have expectations that may or may not be true and almost impossible to argue with a TD which is thousandths of miles away from you in China...just my 2 cents.
 

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Reading all these above , I couldn't agree more with you korneevy.
But since in the end it's a matter of trust , how can i be reassured that a watchsmith won't try to fool me too
I mean , where I live , I couldn't find one to fix my fiddy pam and i had (actually the guy I bought it from) to send it to Domi to fix it
Angus has been very reliable and trustworthy for many years ( that's why he's a TD) and I don't think that a TD would try to fool anyone here
Of course we can never be sure for the one who provides Angus with the watches...

hmmmmmmmm.......don't know...i'm confused once again...:)
 

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800$ is kinda exp if ya asked me, i would recommend getting the A7750 version and have it serviced by a watchsmith which might cost around 100$ odds and i still have about 300$++ left over to get me another nice rep.
 
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ETA 7750 movement, lubed and WR tested, you could also do the full treatment and have him relume #'s and pearl. If money is no issue this imo is the best...although I agree with Asheron, I have had an Asian movement in my 328 otb as silent as a Swiss and for sure with some a service and regulation the performance could be on par.
 

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800$ is kinda exp if ya asked me, i would recommend getting the A7750 version and have it serviced by a watchsmith which might cost around 100$ odds and i still have about 300$++ left over to get me another nice rep.

I agree with you, an A7750 serviced properly can be very reliable.
 

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before this showed up on Puretime Vac posted a thread "Vac v3 243".

ETA 7750 movement, lubed and WR tested, you could also do the full treatment and have him relume #'s and pearl. If money is no issue this imo is the best...although I agree with Asheron, I have had an Asian movement in my 328 otb as silent as a Swiss and for sure with some a service and regulation the performance could be on par.

yes indeed, i've actually ordered and just received my Vac modded 243L Noob running on A7750 movt last week thou he did offered Swiss movts as well. got him to fixing some of the "flaws" that PAMnatics would be bugged with.

you can refer to my thread here, have also ordered some new shoes for it and should be arriving soon!

@tobin, now my rotor is smooooooth as butter and spins ever so easily!
 

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All of the PAMs with gen ETAs are worth it if you have the clams. I mostly collect gen Soprod type PAMs and hate to tell you the only difference in the movement and the gen is thousands of $$$. On my Soprod Pams with few exception I'd never know they were a rep ever. My newest 028B I'd know, but as soon as the DW and CG get fixed it to will be a perfect copy of a $12,000 watch! If you can afford them buy them.... otherwise A7750 serviced is a much better way to go to be affordable.
Not to step on toes, and think PT is awesome, I would agree with those who say I'd not believe all the hype in marketing. I'd buy a DSN with "gen" movement before I'd buy a PT. If I was buying ones with high end movements I'd buy preowned from a known seller who already verified everything is legit, and they usually are sold at a loss.
 

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Puretime's Noob V2 with A7750 engine+VAC service and waterproofing, just to make sure it will run smooth, longer and I can take it to the pool this summer. That's what I'm getting .I see no need for Swiss ETA at all. My 2 cents.
 

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Thanx guys. I think I should stick with the asian movement and then send it over to a mod for an upgrade
Do you know if Domi still does this kind of modding?!
 

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Thanx guys. I think I should stick with the asian movement and then send it over to a mod for an upgrade
Do you know if Domi still does this kind of modding?!

not sure if Domi does all the works thou, but no harm dropping him a PM. :) good luck with getting ya 243L Noob!