Pam 243 colourless ar glass or not ??

[marcko]

Hi Folks
Does anyone know why some 243's have colourless ar (http://www.pf-818.com/pn243m01-submersible-ssru-p-16926.html)
and some don't (http://www.tswatchltd.com/15017-15017.html)
Some have double sided ar and some don't.

Is the 243 m v2/v3 noob still the best or is the new 243 hf V3 better ?
And what about hf L version (http://www.2015asian.com/product_show.asp?P_id=2308)
What am i missing ??
I'm trying to find out wich is best all together.
All comments welcome...

 

[ALE7575]

Hi marcko

I will try to clarify this matter
Firstly don't trust exactly the specifications of dealer's catalogues. They usually are copying some list of features given by the maker and sometimes are wrong. Besides dealers usually don't update the catalogues and the description remains the same years and years.


PAM 243 modern reps story is as follows:

Before 2012 year there were two Super reps of PAM 243 made by Noob and H maker, both L-series
In March 2014 Noob introduced some improvements making the replica called Pam 243 M-series Noob V2 the absolute best available. See some improvements expalined here: http://puretime.watch/product/pam24...n-on-rubber-strap-v2-eta7750-free-strap-tool/. There were actually less improvements because some improvements were already applied in last batches of Noob L-sereis. But the reading is always interesting to know the evolution and qualities of the production of this rep.

In September 2013 Noob stopped the production of PAM 243 V2
In October 2013 Noob made the last batch of PAM 243 Noob V2. People and Noob called it Pam 243 Noob V3, but it was actually a new and last batch of V2 without visible improvements. People bought very fast this last batch PAM 243 Noob V2 (V3), therefore this Noob is not available many time ago.

In September 2014 H maker released a new version of PAM 243 M-series improved enough to can compete with Noob V2 (V3). We can see from many threads about this last rep that quality is good enough to get a good alternative for the sold out Noob V2 (V3).

-Your first PerfectClones link is an H maker last version from Sept 2014
-Second link from TSWatches is the last batch Noob V2 (V3) from Oct 2013 (sold out at this moment)
-Third link from Asian7750 is an old H maker L-series from 2011 (most likely not available actually at this moment)

Therefore, H maker M-series (from sep 2014) is the best AND ONLY good option at this moment. It is evaluated as a good Super rep in some aspects even better than Noob V2 (V3).
Some links of last H maker M-series:
http://www.torobravo2015.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=1540
http://www.intime.co/panerai/2147-pam-243-m-h-maker-1-1-ultimate-edition-on-rubber-strap-v2.html
http://www.ttw8488.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=352&products_id=13017
http://www.ttw8488.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=352&products_id=13016
http://www.pf-818.com/pn243m02-submersible-ssle-p-16927.html
http://www.pf-818.com/pn243m01-submersible-ssru-p-16926.html

And some links for threads about new PAM 243:
http://forum.replica-watch.info/vb/...h-maker-factory-better-than-out-of-stock-Noob by Branigg
http://www.rwg.bz/board/index.php?showtopic=103342 by Branigg
http://forum.replica-watch.info/vb/...an-never-small-review-of-H-factory-PAM-243-V2 by Polonus TM
http://www.repgeek.com/showthread.php?t=254610 by Polonus TM
http://www.repgeek.com/showthread.php?t=254610&p=2682188&viewfull=1#post2682188 by Kaniel
http://forum.replica-watch.info/vb/showthread.php/211576-Pam-243 by Derik429
http://forum.replica-watch.info/vb/showthread.php/211576-Pam-243?p=2293519#post-2293519
by Derik429

Unfortunately I have not had time to introduce this new rep in PAM GUIDE

Regarding AR, all good modern reps of PAM 243 have Colourless AR single side (inner part) following gen specifications. Therefore no worries about this matter, this is not the problem.

I hope now all is clear enough

Good luck
ALE

 

[HODINKY]

Hi Folks
Does anyone know why some 243's have colourless ar (http://www.pf-818.com/pn243m01-submersible-ssru-p-16926.html)
and some don't (http://www.tswatchltd.com/15017-15017.html)
Some have double sided ar and some don't.

Is the 243 m v2/v3 noob still the best or is the new 243 hf V3 better ?
And what about hf L version (http://www.2015asian.com/product_show.asp?P_id=2308)
What am i missing ??
I'm trying to find out wich is best all together.
All comments welcome...

Great post as I am trying to find out the same
Have you included in your search the 'J' series -tritium only- about 700 made back in mid 2000 and now available from HF
http://www.torobravo2015.com/index.php?route=product/product&keyword=pam+243&product_id=1661
http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=301882

 

[marcko]

Thank you very much Ale, you give the best comments as usual......

 

[ALE7575]

Thank you very much Ale, you give the best comments as usual......

Thanks, you are welcome

Bear in mind also the rep 243-J commented by HODINKY

ALE

 

[rolopam]

Thx [MENTION=35350]ALE7575[/MENTION] !
I didn't found those excellent information in your guide

 

[ALE7575]

Thx @ALE7575 !
I didn't found those excellent information in your guide

I try to include all possible information in the GUIDE. But many times that is impossible, because the information is really huge
I need to summarize a little

ALE

 

[rolopam]

You did an amazing job ! It's so helpful ! Thx again

 

[jonaylor]

Nice bit of info ALE. getting a taste for the pam subs..

 

[ALE7575]

Nice bit of info ALE. getting a taste for the pam subs..

You will not get disappointed

PAM 243- PAM 364 - PAM 569 - PAM 571 - PAM 508

and after those: PAM 187- PAM 305- PAM 382- PAM 389

ALE

 

[phdsjain]

Sir, @ALE7575, could you enlighten me how the crystal AR on the Noob 243M V2 compares to that of Gen and whether or not a 2XAR or only redoing the underside AR would be recommended for the Noob to more gen-like? My only gripe with some excellent Pams is the muddy crystal. For reference, I currently rotate between a Gen Oris, Gen Omega Constellation and MMM 16233 with Gen crystal & cyclops.