PAM 183h arrival & first wind

[DIAMOND-DAI]

My PAM 183H from Puretime is due to arrive today and given that it would appear that I overwound the 026k I bought off the forum last week (doh!) I just wondered what the protocol is for first wind?

20 turns? 30 turns? Don't want to break this one when it arrives today!!!

DD

 

[cwazy1]

How did you overwind it? You'll feel significant tension in the crown once its fully wound.

 

[DIAMOND-DAI]

Perhaps I didn't then as the crown built up no tension when I was winding it, hence why I thought I'd wound it too much!!!

 

[robbie888]

normally you will feel more resistence in winding just before you reach the end. I allways stop winding then and not go to the point the crown stops.

 

[midasmook]

You CANNOT overwind a watch.

 

[Alex_P1]

You CANNOT overwind a watch.

You can if you like your spring in one piece! PAMs can be overwound, unlike Rolex, as they do not have a mechanism to protect the spring once they become fully wound.

 

[midasmook]

I disagree, you can't overwind a watch.

 

[co-axial]

I agree witm mm, you can only overwind with brute force

 

[ALE7575]

I disagree, you can't overwind a watch.

I think midasmook is meaning:

- You can wind completely a watch
- If the watch have mechanism of protection you can follow turning the crown and nothing happens.
- If the wacth have no mechanism of protection and you try more winding you will just broke the Spring. And all finished.

The overwinding doesn't exist !!
Isn't it??

ALE

 

[midasmook]

exactly.

 

[ALE7575]

exactly.

lol

ale

 

[co-axial]

exactly.

You can overwind a 6497 afaik...

Maybe wiz can give a short comment pls

 

[midasmook]

When you wind a watch all you are doing is tightening a spring. When the spring is as tight as it will go you can't wind it any more, laws of physics, therefore no you cannot "overwind". On a manual watch the winder will just stop when it's fully wound, if you try and force it further you could break something so don't!. Auto's have a clutch system so when the spring is fully wound the winding mechanism slips.

The term "overwound" is often misused to describe a non running watch where the winder will not turn in the winding direction, this normally (but not always) means the spring is fully wound but there is something preventing the springs energy being transferred to the drive train.

 

[co-axial]

Thanks MM, so i was using a wrong term...as i meant it is possible to break somethimg if you force it...

(btw i just gave it a search, seems as the term is used wrong often, lol

http://forum.replica-watch.info/vb/showthread.php/unitas-6497-winding-70250?t=70250 )

 

[KBH]

With enough force, you can break anything, even a manual wind movement. But you'd have to almost do it on purpose.

MM is right though, you can't accidentally over wind a movement.

 

[Alex_P1]

When you wind a watch all you are doing is tightening a spring. When the spring is as tight as it will go you can't wind it any more, laws of physics, therefore no you cannot "overwind". On a manual watch the winder will just stop when it's fully wound, if you try and force it further you could break something so don't!. Auto's have a clutch system so when the spring is fully wound the winding mechanism slips.

The term "overwound" is often misused to describe a non running watch where the winder will not turn in the winding direction, this normally (but not always) means the spring is fully wound but there is something preventing the springs energy being transferred to the drive train.

Ok, I agree with this, sorry for my hasty earlier comment!

However, I'd like to point out to anyone that thinks winding a PAM is the same as a Rolex, that some care is required not to damage a component part of the watch when the spring is fully wound.

Use finger tips and you'll be fine, better to be safe than sorry

 

[ALE7575]

btw i just gave it a search, seems as the term is used wrong often, lol

http://forum.replica-watch.info/vb/showthread.php/unitas-6497-winding-70250?t=70250 )

Please, my friends...These are just some nice or fun comments.
We all know we are talking about

co-ax hit the nail on the head !!

ALE

 

[TastyTreats]

When you wind a watch all you are doing is tightening a spring. When the spring is as tight as it will go you can't wind it any more, laws of physics, therefore no you cannot "overwind". On a manual watch the winder will just stop when it's fully wound, if you try and force it further you could break something so don't!. Auto's have a clutch system so when the spring is fully wound the winding mechanism slips.

The term "overwound" is often misused to describe a non running watch where the winder will not turn in the winding direction, this normally (but not always) means the spring is fully wound but there is something preventing the springs energy being transferred to the drive train.

makes perfect sense.

I have never had an issue with over-winding and all my watches are automatic.