PAM 177H with swan neck

[moggio]

What do you guys think of this pam compare to 111h ?

Hows the movement with swan neck ?..is it the same with 111h? ...is it almost 98% to gen ?

 

[takashi]

Any pics will be much appreciated. As far as I am concerned, the crown thickness and the lume are 2 main things to look out for. As for AR coating, it differs time to time (I guess there are many suppliers for this AR coated crystal).

 

[takashi]

The 177 should come with a sandwich dial, shouldn't it? Mine still uses the old normal dial. Recess canon pin problem exists, thin crown, Asian copy Unitas 6497-2. Ti case is accurate though (similar to 036). AR coating not as heavy as the 036 (this is the most visible AR I have seen in a reppanerai). Water resistant is not that good either. I have to open it up and apply some silicon grease.

 

[16520b]

http://shopping.e-conveni.net/item_info.html?cart_num=1743&category_id=4911&products_id=748422&

click the link twice for the 177H

 

[takashi]

Sandwich looks similar. Crown doesn't look good though. It doesn't show the lume and movement type.

EDIT: movement probably swiss modified bridge. Short canon pinion problem exist. I suggest you go for PAM036 instead (your choice still).

 

[16520b]

the good crown & cg is on the 177 with the croc strap, same as the 036 , you can tell by the upside down lever pin

 

[takashi]

It seems that my 036 has thicker crown.

EDIT again: Do they pictured 2 different PAM? One of them has thinner crown.

 

[16520b]

yes, i think the 177H with the croc strap pictured has the same 036 crown, all the 036 with thick crowns I have seen has the lever pin placed upside down, meaning the pin is thinner on top of the CG and thicker at the bottom of CG

 

[takashi]

yes, i think the 177H with the croc strap pictured has the same 036 crown, all the 036 with thick crowns I have seen has the lever pin placed upside down, meaning the pin is thinner on top of the CG and thicker at the bottom of CG

Not true... Mine is same thickness CG up or down.

 

[16520b]

u mean the lever pin ?

 

[takashi]

yes, the lever pin. We should ask enzo. He got a 036 with thick crown too.

 

[16520b]

his appears to be from a different factory

I think Josh has the best 036, same as what ETA swiss & puretime has, all have this upside down lever pin, you can see from their web

this has been discuss a couple times on RWG

 

[takashi]

Here's the 036 crown.

 

[moggio]

thanks for the info

Well..yes I've seen the pam 177 with different version .. I think I have to ask a few dealers on wat case do thy have...becoz..i think the new Case is the proper way to go... for the pam 036...well need to do some research on that too ...thanks guys for the input...

ciao...
moggio