PAM 1314 - quick check before pulling the trigger...

[BazzaB]

Hi,

After recently buying a PAM616, from a member, I've fallen seriously into a PAM rabbit hole! Each time I think I've escaped, something pulls me back in.. This time it's the PAM 1314 from VSF factory..

I've been reading up, and I "think" this is the right model where the hands have been updated to be closer to GEN - is that right? I'm also confused about the movement - some say that although it's marketed as a P9010, it's actually the P9000? Again am I just making that up?

I love the look of the watch - always a sucker for a white dial... Let me know your thoughts...!!

Cheers!

Ian

PN1314LE - PAM 1314 Luminor Marina Auto 44mm SS/LE VSF P9010 [PN1314LE] - $488.00 : Trusty Time Watch, Your Trusty Watch Shop

Trusty Time Watch PN1314LE - PAM 1314 Luminor Marina Auto 44mm SS/LE VSF P9010 [PN1314LE] - VS Factory PAM1314 Luminor Marina Automatic 44mm Case construction 1:1 as per Genuine MOVEMENT: Super Clone P9010 Automatic movement, 28800bph, Cut out design Rotor as per genuine, Modified to P9010...

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[locvs]

Hands were fixed a few months after release.
every VSF Pam has the p9000 clone. Functions are same as the p9010 with jumping hour hand. P9010 is thinner and the balance wheel is in a different position.
Not an issue with closed casebacks

 

[BazzaB]

Hands were fixed a few months after release.
every VSF Pam has the p9000 clone. Functions are same as the p9010 with jumping hour hand. P9010 is thinner and the balance wheel is in a different position.
Not an issue with closed casebacks

Thanks for the reply my good man! Any sense on the general feeling towards this particular model? I'm a fan, but obviously not an expert!

 

[locvs]

Thanks for the reply my good man! Any sense on the general feeling towards this particular model? I'm a fan, but obviously not an expert!

I'd say the 1314 is defo first class. Case, face, etc. are all usual VSF quality with minor discrepancies to the real thing. As long as you don't open the caseback you'll be hard pushed to find a tell you're wearing a rep.
The p9000 clone is a a very reliable movement and as said before - functions are the same as on the p9010. And you get hacking seconds. Those were scraped by Panerai two years ago. Outrageous for the price,but panerai...

As usual with Pam reps - get a nice quality strap. VSF straps are shit.

 

[BazzaB]

I'd say the 1314 is defo first class. Case, face, etc. are all usual VSF quality with minor discrepancies to the real thing. As long as you don't open the caseback you'll be hard pushed to find a tell you're wearing a rep.
The p9000 clone is a a very reliable movement and as said before - functions are the same as on the p9010. And you get hacking seconds. Those were scraped by Panerai two years ago. Outrageous for the price,but panerai...

As usual with Pam reps - get a nice quality strap. VSF straps are shit.

Thanks my man!! You preempted my next q…. I’ve been looking at strap suppliers on here - any recommendations as I don’t see much on here…

 

[Gab miyamoto]

Hi,

After recently buying a PAM616, from a member, I've fallen seriously into a PAM rabbit hole! Each time I think I've escaped, something pulls me back in.. This time it's the PAM 1314 from VSF factory..

I've been reading up, and I "think" this is the right model where the hands have been updated to be closer to GEN - is that right? I'm also confused about the movement - some say that although it's marketed as a P9010, it's actually the P9000? Again am I just making that up?

I love the look of the watch - always a sucker for a white dial... Let me know your thoughts...!!

Cheers!

Ian

PN1314LE - PAM 1314 Luminor Marina Auto 44mm SS/LE VSF P9010 [PN1314LE] - $488.00 : Trusty Time Watch, Your Trusty Watch Shop

Trusty Time Watch PN1314LE - PAM 1314 Luminor Marina Auto 44mm SS/LE VSF P9010 [PN1314LE] - VS Factory PAM1314 Luminor Marina Automatic 44mm Case construction 1:1 as per Genuine MOVEMENT: Super Clone P9010 Automatic movement, 28800bph, Cut out design Rotor as per genuine, Modified to P9010...

trustytime888.io

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Hi buddy


I already pull the trigger on vsf pam 1393 (42 mm).

The quality its super as replica just need to change the strap with gen leather ( vsf strap its just plastic rubber plated with black)...


Enjoy man

 

[BazzaB]

Hi buddy


I already pull the trigger on vsf pam 1393 (42 mm).

The quality its super as replica just need to change the strap with gen leather ( vsf strap its just plastic rubber plated with black)...


Enjoy man

Perfect - just want I want to hear!! QQ - where would you source a strap from? Specialist vendor on here? Cheers matey!!

 

[Gab miyamoto]

Perfect - just want I want to hear!! QQ - where would you source a strap from? Specialist vendor on here? Cheers matey!!

Acutely it's easy to get pam gen strap, i got mine from ebay.

 

[BazzaB]

Oh, the gen straps fit?! I had it in my head they wouldn’t!!

 

[Gab miyamoto]

Oh, the gen straps fit?! I had it in my head they wouldn’t!!

Yeah it's.

In pam 44mm case = 24 mm strap size (width size of the strap between the lugs).

Pam 42mm case = 22mm strap size .

 

[locvs]

Thanks my man!! You preempted my next q…. I’ve been looking at strap suppliers on here - any recommendations as I don’t see much on here…

Check the section for strapmakers. There is a strapmaker group on Facebook. And the strap sales section. Also comes to a personal preference. Longer or shorter straps, colours, contrast stitching, leather, rubber, fabric, softer, stiffer, embossing…
Many here have 5-10 times the amount of straps compared to watches.
Check the strap freaks thread here. Same watch can look very different on a different strap
42mm PAMs take 22mm straps
44mm PAMs take 24mm straps
47mm PAMs take 26mm straps

 

[BazzaB]

Hey chaps - just wanted to say thanks for your help! Really appreciated!!

 

[marcsp2675]

Thanks my man!! You preempted my next q…. I’ve been looking at strap suppliers on here - any recommendations as I don’t see much on here…

There are tons of M2M PAM straps in the straps section. I literally got two Gen straps this weekend (a leather and a gator). Prices on used straps are very reasonable.