PAM 1312 Version confusion

[freefallrlc]

I´m currently panning to get a PAM1312. Most reviews are just for the ZF version and it is said that the V6F has the wrong case thickness. The gen is about 15,8mm, I read that V6F is usuing the old, more bigger case from previous watches like the PAM312.
Telling from pictures, I am actually more convinved about the V6F version, though. The ZF has a lot of details that are not correct.
- The lugs shape and holes too centered
- The R.E.G T.M. Text spacing
- the crown too thin
- crownguard and bar shape wrong

all these details seem much better and correct on the V6F. But if they use really a too thick case (the old one) would be a major teller as the new 1312 case is much slimmer. Here is a comparison of a Gen 1312 with a old case 312:

Now comes my problem; this is exactly what I can see on intime, for example. The V6F case is 18 mm and clearly the old version.

BUT! on Puretime they say their V6F is the same correct thickness (15,5mm they say here) and the Case also seems to be the correct new thinner shape.
As this V6F looks much better than the ZF, is it possible that V6F has a new version? This one look totally different from other TDs...

 

[freefallrlc]

No one an idea or ordered the V6F from PT?

 

[superspark69]

I would say you can see the difference in the case backs

 

[freefallrlc]

I mean the side view on the V6F on Puretime is clearly a different case than the V6F other TDs show on their sites. The Puretime one seems to hzve the correct Lugs shape and thickness. That's why I was wondering if there is a new V6F version (with correct size) or did Puretime just mess up pics?

 

[Seefeld]

Trustytime has 5 different pam 1312 and all 18mm thick I would ask a dealer to measure it for you

 

[mysterio]

Trustytime has 5 different pam 1312 and all 18mm thick I would ask a dealer to measure it for you

Unless the TD has all those watches in their office (and there is a big chance they don't for practical reasons), I doubt they would do that for you. If you would just look closer at the advertisements, 4 out of the 5 except for the ZF version is using the old case, therefore there is no doubt that it is 18mm or at the very least, thicker than what should be used for a PAM1312. But basically, I am inclined to think the one creating the ads was just copy pasting and didn't bother to edit it.

The V6F on Trusty's site were posted July and August 2016, the ones on Puretime's site is November 2016 and February 2017. Safe to say that the ones on Angus' site are more updated than the one on Andrew's. I measured around 16.2mm on the one that I bought my buddy but that was with the protective plastic on the crystal and the caseback so it's most likely 16mm or thinner.

 

[freefallrlc]

I heard from a member in another forum that V6F seems to have a new, the slimmer case, now as well. That one has the correct tickness. But because of the fatter caseback, the watch is still a bit ticker than the Gen.
That would make sense because the V6F and ZF they show on puretime are different cases. so a mix up of photos is unlikely. Can tell because the lugs are slightly different shaped and the holes are also different positioned.
Strange thing is only that most other dealers show only the old (like PAM312) bigger case on their V6F PAM1312 pics. and noone seems to sell the new slim case.
Or noone noticed that there is a new slimmer one and changed the pics haha

 

[mysterio]

I heard from a member in another forum that V6F seems to have a new, the slimmer case, now as well. That one has the correct tickness. But because of the fatter caseback, the watch is still a bit ticker than the Gen.
That would make sense because the V6F and ZF they show on puretime are different cases. so a mix up of photos is unlikely. Can tell because the lugs are slightly different shaped and the holes are also different positioned.
Strange thing is only that most other dealers show only the old (like PAM312) bigger case on their V6F PAM1312 pics. and noone seems to sell the new slim case.
Or noone noticed that there is a new slimmer one and changed the pics haha

The ones on Puretime are slimmer, now if your acquaintance from another forum has actually made measurements of this alleged new case aside from the existing ones then he should show you pictures as proof. As for TDs updating their pictures, they aren't very religious in updating their ads, they would rather post an updated case as a new version.

 

[BadData]

freefallrlc I am in the same boat and my TD told me V6F (XF) is on Version 2 now. My hope V2 is thinner but I do not want to risk my money. Did you end getting it or still thinking about it?

 

[freefallrlc]

Actually I ended up with the ZF still. Lol
I was offered it by a member in the forum and I couldn't resist and bought it. It's a really nice watch and looks great. Flaws can probably only tell if you directly compare to the gen or V6F. A comparison of the 3 would still be awesome as the V6F looked more accurate in some parts. Just if the thickness were that wrong, it would be a no go.
Everyone seems to have the ZF though.

 

[freefallrlc]

 

[PaneraiCC]

Very nice panerai. My next one is this one. How do you like it so far?

 

[freefallrlc]

All good
looks and wears great. I just have problems with the automatic wound power reserve on both of my last A7750 watches. But that might be just unlucky coincidence

 

[sdmason]

Thanks for this interesting post.. So still can't figure out the final takeaway? Is the V6 1312 (cheaper version on Puretime) the better one to get because it has the thinner case? Did you measure the ZF to see if it was 15.8 mm

 

[wernermatthysen]

Hi there. I recieved a ZF 1312 last week and I'm very perplexed by the yellow text on the dial. It is very yellow in sunlight, but more muted mustard yellow in the shade. When I take a pic of the watch, the yellow then turns the cappuccino/beige type colour that I see the 1312 is supposed to look like. Beeing that all the pics of 1312 gens online is pictures, I am struggling to find info on whether a gen 1312 is also yellow in daylight? Does anyone perhaps have any info on this for me? Thanks!

 

[mysterio]

Hi there. I recieved a ZF 1312 last week and I'm very perplexed by the yellow text on the dial. It is very yellow in sunlight, but more muted mustard yellow in the shade. When I take a pic of the watch, the yellow then turns the cappuccino/beige type colour that I see the 1312 is supposed to look like. Beeing that all the pics of 1312 gens online is pictures, I am struggling to find info on whether a gen 1312 is also yellow in daylight? Does anyone perhaps have any info on this for me? Thanks!

Maybe you'd like to share pictures of the aforementioned watch? Help us help you and all that.

 

[freefallrlc]

Yeah, my ZF 1312 is not yellow too. A photo would be interesting

 

[wernermatthysen]

Thanks for the comments! I tried to upload a pic, but I got an error saying the file was too big.. Its a normal pic. Anyone know how I can upload a pic?

 

[wernermatthysen]

 

[wernermatthysen]

Ah, there we go. Kindly view the image of the yellow text. What are your thoughts please?