PAM 113

[iwcforme]

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So what do we think of this 113 and what are the flaws?
Not a PAM expert by any means but do LOVE the few I have (111H & 029)
I have always had a cruch on the the 113 - a thing for white dials I guess

 

[hk45ca]

it's a old dial and the seconds @ 9 sub dial markers are incorrect and the sub dial should be recessed. no one has a recessed sub dial but i have one from ruby that has the markers correctly located. i don't think it is available anymore and i would sell you mine but my wife would kick my ass. lmao :lol:

also he is just stating it is a 113. it has an h series case back and a brushed crown guard. i have no idea if that is correct. mine is an 113e with a polished crown guard and it is correct. maybe one of the pam experts will come along and tell us.

hope this helps,

hk

gen

gen

mine from ruby

 

[cybee]

I have always had a cruch on the the 113 - a thing for white dials I guess

even with the flaws if you really like it you should get it.. I bought this same model in a broken state from a member. Fixed it now waiting to get a cannon pin remover so I can do the pin mod.

hmm I just looked at mine and the sub-dial is recessed on it too..I don't know if that is good or bad, doesnt really matter to me.

 

[hooligan]

even with the flaws if you really like it you should get it.. I bought this same model in a broken state from a member. Fixed it now waiting to get a cannon pin remover so I can do the pin mod.

hmm I just looked at mine and the sub-dial is recessed on it too..I don't know if that is good or bad, doesnt really matter to me.

Pics, cybee? If yours has a recessed seconds dial, that would be the first one I've ever seen. Please post some pics!

 

[hk45ca]

even with the flaws if you really like it you should get it.. I bought this same model in a broken state from a member. Fixed it now waiting to get a cannon pin remover so I can do the pin mod.

hmm I just looked at mine and the sub-dial is recessed on it too..I don't know if that is good or bad, doesnt really matter to me.

Pics, cybee? If yours has a recessed seconds dial, that would be the first one I've ever seen. Please post some pics!

yes, i want to see the dial also.

 

[cy0811]

nice crown on the rep

 

[babola]

hmm I just looked at mine and the sub-dial is recessed on it too..

:shock: :?

You sure about that ?! Pics please....

cheers,
babola

 

[pete2528ca]

i had a 113, and it did not have a recessed dial. i am not sure those even exist in the rep world.

 

[cybee]

and the sub dial should be recessed. no one has a recessed sub dial ]

maybe I am confused and unclear. Are you guys referring to the 'small hand' on the sub-dial being recessed or the whole dial. I think I may be confusing a recessed sub-hand with something else. Mine is just a cheapo version, nothing rare I'm sure.

 

[hk45ca]

look very closely at the close up shot of the 113e sub dial i posted. it is very hard to see but if you look at the 9 to 12 area you will see a line just at the outside of the markers. the sub dial it's self is recessed below the top level of the dial. it is slight and hard to see but it is there. i hope i explained it well enough for you to understand. it was the best way i knew to explain it.

 

[cybee]

look very closely at the close up shot of the 113e sub dial i posted. it is very hard to see but if you look at the 9 to 12 area you will see a line just at the outside of the markers. the sub dial it's self is recessed below the top level of the dial. it is slight and hard to see but it is there. i hope i explained it well enough for you to understand. it was the best way i knew to explain it.

oh now I see what you mean. No mine is just flat. I really like the sunken sub-dial but now I have another reason to not like my rep.

Thanks for pointing that out hk..I don't think I would have noticed it.

 

[hooligan]

No reason to dislike your 113, cybee.

None of the rep 113 dials have it, so no worries.

 

[hk45ca]

No reason to dislike your 113, cybee.

None of the rep 113 dials have it, so no worries.

thats absolutely right, none of them have it. that is why we were all wanting to see it. i don't know about the other guys but i would have been finding that dial and having mine changed!!!! :lol:

 

[babola]

i don't know about the other guys but i would have been finding that dial and having mine changed!!!! :lol:

The closest person to make a proper and 'correct' 113 dial would be DSN these days. Do not expect the updated 113 dial version to come out of standard GZ rep factories, the current one is close enough, and that's what only matters to them.

So far DSN hasn't been interested in making a 113 dial with sunken sec subdial, I for one had asked him number of times in the last few years.

Who knows if there's enough interest at the moment he may change his mind

One can only hope... :wink:

 

[iwcforme]

I have a DSN 113 dial I recently purchased from another forum member...though a lovely dial it DOES NOT have the sunken sub seconds dial.

 

[babola]

I have a DSN 113 dial I recently purchased from another forum member...though a lovely dial it DOES NOT have the sunken sub seconds dial.

Let me repeat it again:

THERE ARE NO PAM113 REP DIALS WITH SUNKEN SECOND HAND SUBDIAL AVAILABLE! :roll:

I wish people actualy read the previous posts before they decide to reply.

:wink:

 

[iwcforme]

BABOLA - Down boy, down.

I was just confirming what you said...as an owner of a current 113 dial I can give other people confirmation of what you "state".

 

[Time4Direct]

There is an new guy around making dials for pams don't know if he could help with sunken sub dial but he has everyone in a frenzy with some of his dials he has avaialble . I think his name is little hero or simular beware though I think they are around $200 for a dial bit thats only hearsay

 

[iwcforme]

FWIW, the Gen has a polished Case and brushed CG (not polished)

 

[babola]

BABOLA - Down boy, down.

I was just confirming what you said...as an owner of a current 113 dial I can give other people confirmation of what you "state".

Easy there grasshopper... :wink:

I'll put this down to the nature of posting on Web forums, which are sometimes not as easy to get the intended tone of the post.