PAM 113 Dial

[AGL]

I've been wanting a PAM113 for a long while now. I've searched multiple dealers, multiple factories for reps but none seem to have the correct dial design.

The genuine PAM 113 has what looks to be a recessed dial for the seconds @9. Most reps I find look like a sticker or something placed on top of the dial.

Without going GEN is there any way I can get a realistic looking 113 together? I know there is a GEN dial for sale here on RWI but its $900 and I'd rather exhaust all options in the wrep world than spend that money on a dial & hands.

Is there any other model out there that has a 113 base dial that I could get and do a build to make a PAM 113?

I have the 785 Daylight and that dial is perfect just has the wrong wording compared to the 113. I'm wondering if there is a dial out there that is the same wording as a 113 with a flat dial without the recessed/raised sticker design?

Here's a photo of the GEN:

This is what most REPs that I can find look like:

Any help or advice would be appreciated. I've searched the forums and looked on multiple threads but can't find what I'm looking for.

 

[Strodda]

That I'm aware of, no reps have a recessed subdial, and that pic looks to be a noob because it's noticeably off white. The Hfac version is still not recessed but the color is much better.

 

[ALE7575]

That I'm aware of, no reps have a recessed subdial, and that pic looks to be a noob because it's noticeably off white. The Hfac version is still not recessed but the color is much better.

Yes Strodda the dial seems Hmaker
But as far as I know there are no big differences between Noob and H maker, remember Bozz's thread:
http://forum.replica-watch.info/vb/showthread.php/216381-Noob-113-dial-vs-HF-113-dial
What's your opinion?
ALE

 

[Strodda]

Yes Strodda the dial seems Hmaker
But as far as I know there are no big differences between Noob and H maker, remember Bozz's thread:
http://forum.replica-watch.info/vb/showthread.php/216381-Noob-113-dial-vs-HF-113-dial
What's your opinion?
ALE

Hmm... I do remember that thread. You would definitely know better than I, thats for sure. I just remember hearing about the Noob having the ugly off-white subdial. Here is mine, what I thought was a new Hfac and it does have a straight white sub.

 

[AGL]

Yes Strodda the dial seems Hmaker
But as far as I know there are no big differences between Noob and H maker, remember Bozz's thread:
http://forum.replica-watch.info/vb/showthread.php/216381-Noob-113-dial-vs-HF-113-dial
What's your opinion?
ALE

I read this thread on my searches yesterday but again but dials have the stuck on sub dial with round circles. The NOOB looks like its off white swell which is a huge flaw.

Hmm... I do remember that thread. You would definitely know better than I, thats for sure. I just remember hearing about the Noob having the ugly off-white subdial. Here is mine, what I thought was a new Hfac and it does have a straight white sub.

Is the sub dial on yours raised? And does it have the circles on the sticker?

 

[ALE7575]

I read this thread on my searches yesterday but again but dials have the stuck on sub dial with round circles. The NOOB looks like its off white swell which is a huge flaw.



Is the sub dial on yours raised? And does it have the circles on the sticker?

Either Noob or H maker subdials are the same regarding structure. Both are raised and with concentric circles. Whereas gen is rcessed and with concentric circles

Many people say that Noob dials are with the subdial a bit yellowish but Bozz in his comparison saw them the same.

Bozz Noob dial in the review was a dial of mine, sent to me from Noob to make a review. I didn't see this subdial actually very yellowish.

You can see many pics and the complete review here:
http://forum.replica-watch.info/vb/showthread.php/165158-*PCTeam*-PAM-113-Noob-dial-prototype-Review

ALE

 

[AGL]

Either Noob or H maker subdials are the same regarding structure. Both are raised and with concentric circles. Whereas gen is rcessed and with concentric circles

Many people say that Noob dials are with the subdial a bit yellowish but Bozz in his comparison saw them the same.

Bozz Noob dial in the review was a dial of mine, sent to me from Noob to make a review. I didn't see this subdial actually very yellowish.

You can see many pics and the complete review here:
http://forum.replica-watch.info/vb/showthread.php/165158-*PCTeam*-PAM-113-Noob-dial-prototype-Review

ALE

Thanks. I don't like the NOOB or H FAC dials. So my only option is to go GEN?

 

[ALE7575]

Thanks. I don't like the NOOB or H FAC dials. So my only option is to go GEN?

Leaving aside the raised subdial, and the lume dots which are a bit flatter instead of semi-spherical both dials are really good

The raised subdial is almost unnoticeable under the naked eye and the lume dots in the wrist an under the crystal the same


ALE

 

[AGL]

Leaving aside the raised subdial, and the lume dots which are a bit flatter instead of semi-spherical both dials are really good

The raised subdial is almost unnoticeable under the naked eye and the lume dots in the wrist an under the crystal the same


ALE

I was going to have it relumed upon arrival anyway. But if your saying the raised sub dial isn't that greater deal I might have to try one.

As you're the PAM expert, where can I get the best version?

HFAC: http://www.torobravo2015.com/index.php?route=product/product&keyword=113&product_id=836
NOOB: http://www.torobravo2015.com/index.php?route=product/product&keyword=113&product_id=1001

 

[ALE7575]

I was going to have it relumed upon arrival anyway. But if your saying the raised sub dial isn't that greater deal I might have to try one.

As you're the PAM expert, where can I get the best version?

HFAC: http://www.torobravo2015.com/index.php?route=product/product&keyword=113&product_id=836
NOOB: http://www.torobravo2015.com/index.php?route=product/product&keyword=113&product_id=1001

This is the problem nowadays buying Luminor Bettarini 44mm cases
Regarding dials no problem they are really similar, last H maker are almost the same as Noob, No worries about

But the problem is the caseset
As saying every day lastly, we are in a transition period where makers are changing from old casesets to new ones
We cannot know what we will receive in our parcels. We need to inspect carefully our QCpics

A new (completely NEW) Noob V4 caseset it would be the best current option, but leaving aside some PAM 390, Noob don't deliver barely V4 casesets.
H maker is also mixing new and old parts in the current productions and the quality is a bit inconsistent. Besides H maker case is very nicely finished but the edges are sharper than gen and the bezel has a bit wrong shape and sharper transition edge
As I always say the best caseset so far would be a Noob V4 (with all new parts)
Maybe the best option is waiting for Noob applying V4 caseset in all models
Unfortunately we don't know when that will happen

ALE