Who´s selling a 005 with a correct backlid?
I´ve been on some dealers sites but I didn´t find one.
Who knows it better?
I´ve been on some dealers sites but I didn´t find one.
Who knows it better?
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PAM 005 with correct back lid
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babola
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I wouldn't call Joshua's 'correct' since it comes with wrong caseback, at least judging by his pics...the caseback belongs to 5218-201/A, the original "father" of today's 000 and 005 Logos.
Most of the dealers (DSN excluded) currently offer "close enough" 000 and 005 Logos, the main 'flaws' being G-series dial (L Swiss L) and H-series caseback (H series serial number). Not even many a Paneristi knows the difference between G and H series dial changes on 44mm Luminor Pams, with H & I series having 'L Swiss Made L' under 6 o'clock instead of 'L Swiss L'. Don't expect rep makers to change this anytime soon simple because, well, it sells anyway.
Another "flaw" is the movement that comes in Swiss ETA 000 & 005 Logos from Joshua, Andrew, Ruby etc...it's OPX & OPXI with CDG bridges and SN reg...well that's wrong since gen 000/005 Logos come with much simpler and less decorated OPI and OPII. So far I'm only aware of Davidsen's Logos with the correct mov't inside.
The advantage of 000 & 005 Logo reps should be the simplicity of the movement they house inside, as it's far easier to source and is more affordable to us end-customers....sadly, rep makers seemed to have missed that fact...
Logo reps should be priced in low $200's just like other OPI/OPII based reps (036, 001, 002 etc), instead of late $200's and low $300's simply because they house fancy, wrong and completely unnecessary movement.
cheers,
babola
Most of the dealers (DSN excluded) currently offer "close enough" 000 and 005 Logos, the main 'flaws' being G-series dial (L Swiss L) and H-series caseback (H series serial number). Not even many a Paneristi knows the difference between G and H series dial changes on 44mm Luminor Pams, with H & I series having 'L Swiss Made L' under 6 o'clock instead of 'L Swiss L'. Don't expect rep makers to change this anytime soon simple because, well, it sells anyway.
Another "flaw" is the movement that comes in Swiss ETA 000 & 005 Logos from Joshua, Andrew, Ruby etc...it's OPX & OPXI with CDG bridges and SN reg...well that's wrong since gen 000/005 Logos come with much simpler and less decorated OPI and OPII. So far I'm only aware of Davidsen's Logos with the correct mov't inside.
The advantage of 000 & 005 Logo reps should be the simplicity of the movement they house inside, as it's far easier to source and is more affordable to us end-customers....sadly, rep makers seemed to have missed that fact...
Logo reps should be priced in low $200's just like other OPI/OPII based reps (036, 001, 002 etc), instead of late $200's and low $300's simply because they house fancy, wrong and completely unnecessary movement.
cheers,
babola
Natron said:
Is it an update?
On his website the pix look this way:
SS-bracelet:
Leather strap:
It´s the 0384 stamp on the back like any other rep I found.
Here´s the correct lid from DS
David Sen´s has the correckt back lid, but in the other post I read that David´s lume is way too green and has to be relumed.
So I want to start with a lower buck basic watch and give it a DS CG and DS Cannon pin and have the dial relumed from stock.
When Josh or Andrew have a correct lid which is not pictured it may be my choice.[/img]
Thank you, Golfman.
So Joshua did not update his website.
I think Josh´s 005 is an ideal basis to start from.
So Joshua did not update his website.
I think Josh´s 005 is an ideal basis to start from.
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@bodo
Not bad caseback, however neither 000 nor 005 were made in F series, the first watches emerged in 2004, G series...so the caseback is slightly incorrect. But than again, it sits against your wrist and appart from you no one will know
@golfman
Nice, but again, the Logo Josh sells comes with G-series dial (L Swiss L) and H-series caseback...you could remove the black fill-in paint from the engraved text on the back and you've got yourself possibly the closest Logo rep caseback.
That said...both watches are very nice rep specimens and most people don't care about these little details...
cheers,
babola
Not bad caseback, however neither 000 nor 005 were made in F series, the first watches emerged in 2004, G series...so the caseback is slightly incorrect. But than again, it sits against your wrist and appart from you no one will know
@golfman
Nice, but again, the Logo Josh sells comes with G-series dial (L Swiss L) and H-series caseback...you could remove the black fill-in paint from the engraved text on the back and you've got yourself possibly the closest Logo rep caseback.
That said...both watches are very nice rep specimens and most people don't care about these little details...
cheers,
babola
Pix may be a little blurry, but I just took them now, downloaded to CP, and uploaded to photobucket.
The font is as follows:
Firenze
1860
OP6617
PB515444
G0616/1000
Hope this helps. I believe it is the closest caseback, and the font on the dial I have been told is good also.
Natron
Natron said:
So, yours was from Josh?
Very nice! I guess I am in love!
Is that possible that you post a link to this one? Thanks!
I just recieved my 005 from Joshua 2 days ago and it still has the wrong caseback ( the 201/A). Here is a pic of a gen :
Any dealer can provide this caseback?
Any dealer can provide this caseback?