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P3000 movement plate lettering question

Netbis71

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Guys,

Do you see anything obviously wrong on movement decor plate? I think it is just light reflection. I am aware the decorated jewels have slightly lighter pink color and one jewels is receded so it appears bit darker, but I think this is the case with all p3000 clones. I noticed maybe a lettering not painted to best ability, but it is hard to say.

In case for real the paint is partially missing on letters, I tried to find instructions DIY on how to fix it but without luck.

This is from TD qc photo and I am afraid they are already shipping out. I asked for extra photo of the movement but never got one, so I don't know if they shipping out or replacing it since my other watch 417kw was approved. This 372SF looked really nice and clean except for the lettering on movement, but I wasn't sure, so I asked for extra picture, never got one. I know its a rep and not 10k gen, so I thought no big deal have to be reasonable and have real expectation, however it would be nice to have it perfectly painted.


 

ALE7575

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I think big flaws on painting shouldn't be accepted
If not perfectly painted we could expect at least a reasonable GOOD quality, although we are talking about reps

ALE
 

ALE7575

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For example

"RAI" on PANERAI don't seem actually good. The rest seems OK enough

ALE
 

Netbis71

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Thanks ALE,

If anyone has an idea on how to fix this paint issue I would be very thankful.

This is my 4th purchase, and I see the trend when TDs are often trying to offload the previously rejected timepieces first to new buyer, hoping one will not notice the flaws, then when reordering replacement then it is usually ok.
I had to reject 417 with bad CG and paint missing on tip of hour hand before I actually got very nice qc pics second time. :punk:Now I feel bad letting this slip out.
 
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d4m.test

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Don´t worry about the smallprint and the caseback. The bright, pink, glued rubis scream rep anyway, just be sure to check them often in the beginning to glue them back before they damage anything if they fall off. The bad seated small screw (lower right end near the crown) just bothers me more than the somewhat faded print.

If the face looks good and the lume is ok it´s already good enough.
 

Netbis71

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Don´t worry about the smallprint and the caseback. The bright, pink, glued rubis scream rep anyway, just be sure to check them often in the beginning to glue them back before they damage anything if they fall off. The bad seated small screw (lower right end near the crown) just bothers me more than the somewhat faded print.

If the face looks good and the lume is ok it´s already good enough.


Thanks Daywatch, I will check the screw once watch arrives, still not known if they shipping this one or replacing, so I emailed td, one would hope their qc would catch obvious. If this turn out ugly I'll just stick to reps with ETA clones and avoid exotic movements, although I love the watch and the back.
 
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d4m.test

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Thanks Daywatch, I will check the screw once watch arrives, still not known if they shipping this one or replacing, so I emailed td, one would hope their qc would catch some flaws but they not looking for it. If this turn ugly I just stick to reps with ETA clones and avoid exotic movements, athough I love the watch and the back.

Oh, I´m pretty sure You enjoy it a lot, for Yourself and for showing some close friends - as long as You don´t take a loupe to it, it will look fine and the lettering will be so tiny, You almost can´t make it out anyway. As for reliability 21j, 23j, Asian Clone etc. they all may be good, otb it´s the luck of the draw and - just for having the experience - also the decorated ones have to be tried out:)
 

Netbis71

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Personally, I like the older version without glued on rubies it just looks much cleaner. Everyone here can spot a rep movement easily anyway and those outside of here who don't wouldn't know either way.
I think it would be easier just to exact copy movement as per gen p3000 unless this was spin off another movement. Blueprint and copy same way all ETAs were done.
Change small details to go around copyright, the problem is this movement is not used widely like other asian eta's so it is not cost effective and would cost too much for a rep.
 

shewie

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If you want to make Jewels more "rich" in color and more gen like remove caseback and use water marker, You'll be happy with result.
I have seen somewhere over here DIY how to do this and result is better than promising.