Ordering Super Clone FACTORY>DAYTONA 116500LN NOOB 904L 1:1 BEST EDITION BLACK DIAL ON 904L SS BRACELET SA4130

[d4v3l]

Hi there,

I'm new and keen to order the super clone Rolex Daytona Black Dial with Black Bezel from In Time which I found part of the lists of the trusted dealer here.

Is this safe to proceed and will the watch come as best rep quality?

As per link below.

Daytona 116500LN Noob 904L 1:1 Best Edition Black Dial on 904L SS Bracelet SA4130 - InTimeWatch

Daytona 116500LN Noob 904L 1:1 Best Edition Black Dial on 904L SS Bracelet SA4130

www.intime06.co

Your feedbacks would be very much appreciated.

Many Thanks

 

[dogwood]

Noob no longer exists. Trusted Dealers (TDs) are terrible at updating their websites. Noob was shut down in a raid about 2 years ago.

However, there are two factories Clean Factory (CF) and Better Factory (BTF) which make the Daytona with the same high quality 4130 movement inside. Look at the CF and BTF versions of the Daytona you’re after and you'll do well.

Good hunting.

 

[d4v3l]

Noob no longer exists. Trusted Dealers (TDs) are terrible at updating their websites. Noob was shut down in a raid about 2 years ago.

However, there are two factories Clean Factory (CF) and Better Factory (BTF) which make the Daytona with the same high quality 4130 movement inside. Look at the CF and BTF versions of the Daytona you’re after and you'll do well.

Good hunting.

Hey,

Thank you for your feedback and as I really do not have any experience, which one would be the better watch between Clean Factory (CF) vs Better Factory (BTF) vs Noob and what are the difference in details between them?

Can you please let me know from which trusted dealer I can get the watch?

I am really keen on Black Dial with Black Bezel Rolex Daytona as I love the look.

Many Thanks

 

[dogwood]

Hey,

Thank you for your feedback and as I really do not have any experience, which one would be the better watch between Clean Factory (CF) vs Better Factory (BTF) vs Noob and what are the difference in details between them?

Can you please let me know from which trusted dealer I can get the watch?

I am really keen on Black Dial with Black Bezel Rolex Daytona as I love the look.

Many Thanks

Any of the trusted dealers listed in the RWI sub forum for TDs will be good to work with. They’re all trusted for a reason. I bought my first from Trusty Time because I liked the videos on his site. Then I bought from Hont because he offers specials and free shipping. Then I bought from Puretime because he has a good mobile optimized site. All TDs can access all reps.

Now I’m terms of which black dial ceramic bezel Daytona rep is better between BTF and CF… that is a question that barrels of ink have been spilled over in various threads in the Rolex sub forum here. Honest answer: they’re both exceptionally good and you’ll be happy with either one. Second honest answer: i bought the BTF version about 8 months ago because at the time it seemed to be preferred over CF for the black dial version. I don’t know if that’s still the way the wind is blowing. Maybe someone discovered a microscopic flaw that’s only visible under 100x magnification and the CF version is now better. Who knows. All I can tell you is that both are excellent and if you want to know which one is better then there are many many pages of holy war opinionated threads to read.

 

[Feefo]

Hi there,

I'm new and keen to order the super clone Rolex Daytona Black Dial with Black Bezel from In Time which I found part of the lists of the trusted dealer here.

Is this safe to proceed and will the watch come as best rep quality?

As per link below.

Daytona 116500LN Noob 904L 1:1 Best Edition Black Dial on 904L SS Bracelet SA4130 - InTimeWatch

Daytona 116500LN Noob 904L 1:1 Best Edition Black Dial on 904L SS Bracelet SA4130

www.intime06.co

Your feedbacks would be very much appreciated.

Many Thanks

Hi and welcome to RWI. It's good to have you here!
Please spend some time reading the sticky threads in the new members area, loads of useful info and some rules that are good to know and to comply to while spending your time here.
As for your query, @dogwood really said it all, all RWI's TDs are good to go, maybe you can take some time checking their shipping and reimbursement policies and payment methods to choose the one you feel more comfortanle with. Then it's always a good practice to get in contact with them to check for availability (although for these models availability is probably not a problem) and establish a direct contact to them. Some of them will also give you good advice.
Both Clean and BTF are good options. In doubt, buy both and keep the one you like most. You'll be able to get rid of the other here in the member to member sale section in no tima and with minimal to no loss (provided you keep the watches wrapped). If so, it's paramount you read and understand the sales section rules, we're very strict about those particularly to keep the forum a safe place for sales activities.
If you need anything, you can always ask me or @eBoy for more directions, or the forum at large. We're all happy to help you out in your first steps in this rabbit hole.
Good luck!

 

[d4v3l]

Hi and welcome to RWI. It's good to have you here!
Please spend some time reading the sticky threads in the new members area, loads of useful info and some rules that are good to know and to comply to while spending your time here.
As for your query, @dogwood really said it all, all RWI's TDs are good to go, maybe you can take some time checking their shipping and reimbursement policies and payment methods to choose the one you feel more comfortanle with. Then it's always a good practice to get in contact with them to check for availability (although for these models availability is probably not a problem) and establish a direct contact to them. Some of them will also give you good advice.
Both Clean and BTF are good options. In doubt, buy both and keep the one you like most. You'll be able to get rid of the other here in the member to member sale section in no tima and with minimal to no loss (provided you keep the watches wrapped). If so, it's paramount you read and understand the sales section rules, we're very strict about those particularly to keep the forum a safe place for sales activities.
If you need anything, you can always ask me or @eBoy for more directions, or the forum at large. We're all happy to help you out in your first steps in this rabbit hole.
Good luck!

Hi,
Yes certainly I will spend some time going through the forums and do some homework.
Many thanks for all the support to confirm and making sure it would be a safe purchase for me through one of the Trusted Dealers here.

 

[eBoy]

Hi there,

I'm new and keen to order the super clone Rolex Daytona Black Dial with Black Bezel from In Time which I found part of the lists of the trusted dealer here.

Hi there and welcome to RWI!

@Feefo has given you all the essential pointers already.

Let me just add the following info about the marketing speak in the rep scene:

It's advisable to better forget terms like "1:1 super clone" or "Super Replicas AAA+++++"! They are buzzwords acceptable for our TDs to use in their marketing, but within the scene, they are not always appreciated as they transport a certain false impression about replica watches.

In actual reality, these terms are all as close to the truth as a gold-sh*tting unicorn.

The only things remotely corresponding with reality are the following un-official categories (with respective sub categories, but about that you'll learn soon enough if you keep educating yourself about this subject, let's keep it simple for now):

— Shitters (e.g. "DHgate shitter", or on Reddit: "r/Chinatime Shitters")

Those are cheap, very low-grade replicas, prices are ranging anywhere from roughly $10 to $100. They usually have many flaws and tells (compared to the gen) and are of poor to lower medium build quality.

— High-end replicas (e.g."top tier reps", or on Reddit: "r/Reptime reps")

Those are the best available replicas, usually branded with the manufacturer's "factory name" like e.g. VSF, Noob, ZF, VRF etc. Those range from $100 to over $1000 (but on average they cost roughly anywhere between $250 to $600). Build quality ranges from upper medium to NWBIG (stands for "not worth buying in gen").

— Franken watches, plural: Frankens (term derived from "Frankenstein").

Those are replica-based custom builds with genuine parts, ranging from mid 100s to five figure. A Franken watch could already be, very strictly speaking, just a rep with a replaced gen crystal, gen bezel insert or gen dial etc., but usually the definition refers to rather very elaborate and expensive creations, sometimes even with more gen than rep parts in them.

— Genuine watches (the real and only thing that's truly a 1:1 watch, commonly referred to as "gen, plural: gens")

Self-explanatory and the only way to truly have a watch that is identical with the thing you know from the fancy watch ads in magazines or the manufacturer's web site, because every rep, even the best Franken, will never be absolutely 100% identical to the gen.

Hope this helps a bit for the start. Lots of more resources here on RWI with even better information. Have fun exploring and learning!

 

[d4v3l]

Hi there and welcome to RWI!

@Feefo has given you all the essential pointers already.

Let me just add the following info about the marketing speak in the rep scene:

It's advisable to better forget terms like "1:1 super clone" or "Super Replicas AAA+++++"! They are buzzwords acceptable for our TDs to use in their marketing, but within the scene, they are not always appreciated as they transport a certain false impression about replica watches.

In actual reality, these terms are all as close to the truth as a gold-sh*tting unicorn.

The only things remotely corresponding with reality are the following un-official categories (with respective sub categories, but about that you'll learn soon enough if you keep educating yourself about this subject, let's keep it simple for now):

— Shitters (e.g. "DHgate shitter", or on Reddit: "r/Chinatime Shitters")

Those are cheap, very low-grade replicas, prices are ranging anywhere from roughly $10 to $100. They usually have many flaws and tells (compared to the gen) and are of poor to lower medium build quality.

— High-end replicas (e.g."top tier reps", or on Reddit: "r/Reptime reps")

Those are the best available replicas, usually branded with the manufacturer's "factory name" like e.g. VSF, Noob, ZF, VRF etc. Those range from $100 to over $1000 (but on average they cost roughly anywhere between $250 to $600). Build quality ranges from upper medium to NWBIG (stands for "not worth buying in gen").

— Franken watches, plural: Frankens (term derived from "Frankenstein").

Those are replica-based custom builds with genuine parts, ranging from mid 100s to five figure. A Franken watch could already be, very strictly speaking, just a rep with a replaced gen crystal, gen bezel insert or gen dial etc., but usually the definition refers to rather very elaborate and expensive creations, sometimes even with more gen than rep parts in them.

— Genuine watches (the real and only thing that's truly a 1:1 watch, commonly referred to as "gen, plural: gens")

Self-explanatory and the only way to truly have a watch that is identical with the thing you know from the fancy watch ads in magazines or the manufacturer's web site, because every rep, even the best Franken, will never be absolutely 100% identical to the gen.

Hope this helps a bit for the start. Lots of more resources here on RWI with even better information. Have fun exploring and learning!

Nice to know and thank you for this.
Based on your experience, do you know how reliable is for the high end rellica top tier quality rep Rolex Daytona watch?
Would the super clone 4130 movement last five years?
Would be interesting to hear.
Many thanks

 

[Feefo]

Nice to know and thank you for this.
Based on your experience, do you know how reliable is for the high end rellica top tier quality rep Rolex Daytona watch?
Would the super clone 4130 movement last five years?
Would be interesting to hear.
Many thanks

Afaik the 4130 clone is the best rolex clone so far produced in China. It may very well last five years no problems. There are some risks, obviously, that clone wasn't assembled by a swiss trained watchmaker in a sterile environment followed by thorough QC, but under different conditions altogether. But in the worst case you can get yours serviced when something happens. You can find rep-friendly watchmakers here on the forum. But the general consensus is that this movement is quite solid.

As @eBoy mentioned, forget "high end replica top tier quality rep" definitions, the distinguishing characteristic quality trait of these watches is the factory that produces them. In the forum you'll find all the necessary information to learn about those traits and make your decision on which you like best.
Finally, don't overthink it. My first rep was a "mid-tier" BP factory OP with an ETA clone. To me, it feels fantastic.

 

[d4v3l]

Afaik the 4130 clone is the best rolex clone so far produced in China. It may very well last five years no problems. There are some risks, obviously, that clone wasn't assembled by a swiss trained watchmaker in a sterile environment followed by thorough QC, but under different conditions altogether. But in the worst case you can get yours serviced when something happens. You can find rep-friendly watchmakers here on the forum. But the general consensus is that this movement is quite solid.

As @eBoy mentioned, forget "high end replica top tier quality rep" definitions, the distinguishing characteristic quality trait of these watches is the factory that produces them. In the forum you'll find all the necessary information to learn about those traits and make your decision on which you like best.
Finally, don't overthink it. My first rep was a "mid-tier" BP factory OP with an ETA clone. To me, it feels fantastic.

Hi all,

After doing my own research I decided to proceed from Jtime Clean Factory's Daytona 116500LN with black dial and 4130 v3 movement.

JTIME

JTIME WATCH

jtime.io

Here is the timetable of events:

10/2/23 - Officially placed the order via bank transfer, sent screen shot for proof of payments transfer to Li via whatsapp & email.

11/2/23 - I made another purchase for a matching Rolex Box set with matching documents, sent screen shot for proof of payments transfer to Li via whatsapp & email.

13/2/23 - Lana contacted me via email with first QC images of the watch, however have not seen QC for the box set.

As for QC images here are some examples: Overall according to what my eyes see everything looks fine, I also asked Lana for further questions and QC requests before I give my thumbs up. If anyone sees here any defect (which I cannot see) I'll be grateful to be notified.

 

[Feefo]

Hi all,

After doing my own research I decided to proceed from Jtime Clean Factory's Daytona 116500LN with black dial and 4130 v3 movement.

JTIME

JTIME WATCH

jtime.io

Here is the timetable of events:

10/2/23 - Officially placed the order via bank transfer, sent screen shot for proof of payments transfer to Li via whatsapp & email.

11/2/23 - I made another purchase for a matching Rolex Box set with matching documents, sent screen shot for proof of payments transfer to Li via whatsapp & email.

13/2/23 - Lana contacted me via email with first QC images of the watch, however have not seen QC for the box set.

As for QC images here are some examples: Overall according to what my eyes see everything looks fine, I also asked Lana for further questions and QC requests before I give my thumbs up. If anyone sees here any defect (which I cannot see) I'll be grateful to be notified.

Hi,
congrats for your buy.
I can't see your QC pics (I don't know if you had a problem or it was edited by staff), which is good, because it is against forum rules to post QC asking for general opinions if it's good or not. Again, read the sticky threads in the new members area to learn about the rules (in this case, specific QC rules). It is YOUR watch and YOU have to decide if you like it or not, not the community. You can post one or two pics however to ask for specific issues you may have. But don't overdo it.

A little on QC pics.

QC pics are to satisfy YOU that the watch is OK to YOUR standards, that there are no crooked indices, missing lume, offset chrono hands etc. QC pics are not for picking tells or things that are present in every example of a model such as spelling errors, happy feet, wrong lume colour etc. These...

forum.replica-watch.info

The purpose of QC pictures

At RWI, we're fortunate to have a few dealers who take the time to individually procure, inspect, and photograph watches for potential buyers. This has not always been the norm, and in fact, it's a recent development. Up until about two years ago, all of the dealers drop-shipped everything and...

forum.replica-watch.info

 

[d4v3l]

Hi,
congrats for your buy.
I can't see your QC pics (I don't know if you had a problem or it was edited by staff), which is good, because it is against forum rules to post QC asking for general opinions if it's good or not. Again, read the sticky threads in the new members area to learn about the rules (in this case, specific QC rules). It is YOUR watch and YOU have to decide if you like it or not, not the community. You can post one or two pics however to ask for specific issues you may have. But don't overdo it.

A little on QC pics.

QC pics are to satisfy YOU that the watch is OK to YOUR standards, that there are no crooked indices, missing lume, offset chrono hands etc. QC pics are not for picking tells or things that are present in every example of a model such as spelling errors, happy feet, wrong lume colour etc. These...

forum.replica-watch.info

The purpose of QC pictures

At RWI, we're fortunate to have a few dealers who take the time to individually procure, inspect, and photograph watches for potential buyers. This has not always been the norm, and in fact, it's a recent development. Up until about two years ago, all of the dealers drop-shipped everything and...

forum.replica-watch.info

Oh no... I am so sorry for this.
To be honest I am new and I am really not aware of the forum rules to not to post QC asking for opinions.
How do I delete them from the post?

 

[Feefo]

You may edit your posts if you become a supporter.
Not necessary to delete, shit happens. 3 pics is ok if you ask a particular question. E.g. "Is the marker at 9 aligned?" "Is that a blemish on the 3 o'clock subdial?", things like that.
If you like what you see, go for it. Overthinking will do no good. Zooming in makes no sense, your eyesight isn't that keen irl without a loupe.

 

[eBoy]

Oh no... I am so sorry for this.
To be honest I am new and I am really not aware of the forum rules to not to post QC asking for opinions.
How do I delete them from the post?

I'm a little confused. In the same post in which you publish QC images (after Feefo told you not to and explained why), you ask how to delete them. My brain can't process.

Also, may I respectfully suggest you familiarize yourself with the rules then? Thank you for your understanding!

 

[dogwood]

Oh no... I am so sorry for this.
To be honest I am new and I am really not aware of the forum rules to not to post QC asking for opinions.
How do I delete them from the post?

Some common things to look for in Daytona QC pics:
- is the bezel aligned at 12 o’clock?
- are the hands in the subdials at 3 and 9 o’clock aligned properly and pointing straight upwards?
- is the large center seconds counter hand aligned properly at 12 o’clock.
- do the time grapher numbers look good? Beat error should be under 0.3ms, rate should be below 7s/d, amplitude should be above 230 and below 300.

Good hunting. The Daytona is a fine watch, I’m sure you’ll get an excellent example.

 

[RDRoss]

Welcome to RWI and congrats on the soon to be new watch.
As @dogwood mentioned above (very solid list of things to QA) you can also look at dial alignment and end link fit. In you case (based on the quality of the pictures) i would have a look at the dial alignment.

 

[eBoy]

@d4v3l Excellent advice by senior members. Just keep one thing in mind: Don't obsess over microscopic details that you will never see on the wrist, unless you are Superman himself with built-in macro laser eyes. Gen watches have plenty of imperfections, but their owners don't scrutinize them. Unless they are also rep guys. Lol

QC rejection of perfectly fine watches over the tiniest little imperfections have made reps more expensive for all of us. That's also one of the many reasons why posting QC images indiscriminately is not only frowned up by the rep veterans, but also "regulated" on here.

 

[d4v3l]

the updates continue as below:

13/2/23 - Lana double checked with my shipping address and advised me that tracking number will be given within 3-5 business days.
16/2/23 - Lana sent me tracking numbers of both watch and box, with a photo of each package and parcel manifest, alongside arrival instructions and what to do if due to possible faults that might occur to the watch due to shipping mishandling.

Will update once item arrives.