Ordered an 111M and got a 111N

[Xiang]

So I ordered a 111M and it appears I've received an N. I understand it's the identification by year, but is there any difference in the quality of the replication? It was supposed to be a 111M Noob, by the way.

 

[ShiroTenshi]

I believe its the same thing as the M. I got mine as a N too, fits the "Noob" naming, love it.

 

[Xiang]

I believe its the same thing as the M. I got mine as a N too, fits the "Noob" naming, love it.

Maybe it's my eyes but is it hard to see if "Officine Panerai" is engraved on the movement on your watch?

 

[WatchnScotch]

Sead told me the N series is exactly the same with just a caseback that says N instead of M

 

[ShiroTenshi]

Maybe it's my eyes but is it hard to see if "Officine Panerai" is engraved on the movement on your watch?

I can see that is is engraved on mine with bare eyes.

 

[chibiunko]

i ordered an m and got an n as well. no visible difference except for the change of m to n in the serial

 

[Xiang]

I can see that is is engraved on mine with bare eyes.

I held it up in the light and can tell now. One glaring thing that I'm noticing now though is that there appears to be a smudge or imperfection under the first A in PANERAI. To make matters worse, the "I" looks incomplete or short. Almost like a "!" without the dot. There was a poor job done on the painting of the engraving there it seems. Not sure if it's worth fussing over, but it does kind of bug me.

 

[alvinado]

there is no more M in stock now, that is way you got an N. pictures will really help here..

 

[chibiunko]

I held it up in the light and can tell now. One glaring thing that I'm noticing now though is that there appears to be a smudge or imperfection under the first A in PANERAI. To make matters worse, the "I" looks incomplete or short. Almost like a "!" without the dot. There was a poor job done on the painting of the engraving there it seems. Not sure if it's worth fussing over, but it does kind of bug me.

can you post some pictures of the imperfection?

 

[Xiang]

Photos

can you post some pictures of the imperfection?

Thoughts?

 

[Xiang]

Wrist-Shot

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Thoughts?

Wrist-Shot

 

[Xiang]

One more thing: I received the watch at about 6pm last night. I wound it fully and noticed that it stopped at about 10:30am this morning. I reset the time and wound it again. Is this normal for a PAM rep? 16 1/2 hours and needs to be wound again?

Coupled with the poor engraving, I'm looking to know if I have a lemon on my hands. I've read returning the watch can be quite the ordeal as well so am looking for some insight.

 

[Deadbear77]

Both of my manual Pam's
One Swiss Unitas and one Asian Unitas both last about 42 hours.

 

[chibiunko]

wow that engraving is the worst ive seen on a noob pam111.
16 hours is pretty horrible.
i would return it just for the back engraving

 

[lucil]

that is why u must have qc pics from the dealer.. noob factory engravings are prone to this kind of problems

 

[Xiang]

that is why u must have qc pics from the dealer.. noob factory engravings are prone to this kind of problems

Here is the QC pic of the back and it just so happened it was taken from the opposite side of the case where the engraving was barely visible.

 

[ShiroTenshi]

I'll say return the watch.

Btw is the AR inside or outside on the 111N?