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OMEGA Serial Numbers (? wrong ?)

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bestdressedwrist

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I have seen some sites with the details "Serial Numbers (816880298) engraved Back of Lugs near 7.00 position" for the Omega Seamaster watches.

I thought the Omega serial numbers were 8 digits long and this number is 9 digits.

IMHO this makes the point of replicating a serial number a waste of time.

Am I wrong here in my belief that they should be 8, and are there replicas that are accurate in this respect ?
 

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Planet Ocean serials are 9 digits, and yeah real ones only have 8. The fact they're there in the first place is just to add credibility at first glance- they're so small I doubt someone would count the digits- and furthermore the next step would be to check the serial out, in which case it would of course just come up fake.
These watches aren't meant to be sold as genuine ones, and I am sure this is a step against someone getting away with just that. They're meant to look very real, which they do, but an extra digit really is no big deal.
The Ultimate Planet Ocean is a great watch, had mine for a few years and it's been a very reliable, robust, good looking watch I have enjoyed. Good choice- enjoy your watch once you get it.
 

bestdressedwrist

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gillorin said:
These watches aren't meant to be sold as genuine ones, and I am sure this is a step against someone getting away with just that.

The Ultimate Planet Ocean is a great watch, had mine for a few years and it's been a very reliable, robust, good looking watch I have enjoyed. Good choice- enjoy your watch once you get it.

Hi - I realise they are not meant to be sold as genuine but the point of a replica (especially when the replica seller specifically states "all markings exactly as original") is that it is as close a replica as possible. Given the buyer can check the serial number I still see no reason why it cannot be the correct number of digits. My friends, some of whom have the real thing, would recognise the serial error straight away so it kind of defeats the fun of pretending, LOL.
 

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I hope this doesn't need to get moved. No point in opening yet another discussion on marketing. On the serial number. No one is going to see that. In your case they are because you are handing your watch around to everyone. If you're purpose is to maintain the illusion I would ask you to take note of one thing. Excluding true collectors who leave them in a case most of the time, gen owners view their watches as just that..a watch. Meaning they wear them. It is not normal behavior to pass them around everytime someone comments on it. So as I said if the purpose is to maintain the illusion, you don't do that. It is more of a giveaway than any marking could ever be that it's a rep.

And one other thing to note. It's easy to get wrapped up in all the macro shots you see. And even easier to forget that we are the only ones who really discuss this stuff. Most people do not check serial numbers. And they sure as hell wouldn't know how many digits are supposed to be there. If they did then ebay wouldn't have such a high percentage of counterfeits being sold.
 

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I have both rep and gen Omegas and don't have a clue how many digits are in the s/n of either.

[oh wait - my el cheapo reps don't have serial numbers - I hope I don't get called out :p ]
 

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fakemaster said:
I hope this doesn't need to get moved. No point in opening yet another discussion on marketing. from what i can tell there is little point in your comment at all other than to lecture me - which is not appreaciatedOn the serial number. No one is going to see that. In your case they are because you are handing your watch around to everyone. wrong again - i would not be handing it around to everyone, just a few mates as a joke to try and kid them i have a real one ! at the end of the night i would be 'fessing up' that its a fake. you sure make a lot of assumptions about people dont you !?If you're purpose is to maintain the illusion I would ask you to take note of one thing. Excluding true collectors who leave them in a case most of the time, gen owners view their watches as just that..a watch. Meaning they wear them. It is not normal behavior to pass them around everytime someone comments on it.please do not lecture me what 'normal behaviour' is. did i say i intended passing it around every time anyone commented on it ? NO - again, stop jumping to conclusions So as I said if the purpose is to maintain the illusion, you don't do that. It is more of a giveaway than any marking could ever be that it's a rep.and as i saidthats NOT the purpose of my post - the GIST of what i was saying is that if something is meant to be a replica it should replicate its original correctly

And one other thing to note.one other thing ? you have MORE to say ? <sigh> It's easy to get wrapped up in all the macro shots you see. And even easier to forget that we are the only ones who really discuss this stuff. Most people do not check serial numbers. And they sure as hell wouldn't know how many digits are supposed to be there.like I said - the few mates i would be sharing the joke with WOULD know how many digits on a serial number If they did then ebay wouldn't have such a high percentage of counterfeits being sold.good for ebay

My specific replies to your diatribe are above in red.

Please do not post on any of my threads in future - Im not interested in whining lectures, just constructive answers to the specific questions I may choose to raise. If your life consists of nothing more interesting than flaming people I suggest you channel your energy elsewhere.
 

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jmd33 said:
I have both rep and gen Omegas and don't have a clue how many digits are in the s/n of either.

[oh wait - my el cheapo reps don't have serial numbers - I hope I don't get called out :p ]


Really ? you must be incredibly unobservant ! Perhaps my friends have more savvy than you. Again, your post is a complete waste of time and not directed at constructively answering my original question. If you have nothing worthwhile saying, why say anything at all !?
 

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OP, Please Simma Dow Nah. Please don't take these replies to your post too personally. You asked for opinions and got some. Albeit, they didn't really answer your question directly. (Gents, play nice) If you do a search on Timezone.com I think there is a link there about Omega serial numbers. That's all I know on the subject. Do take my advice to heart, these guys are like your brothers. They give you a wedgie and then cover for you when you get caught sneaking in at night. :D
 

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No one insulted or flamed you. And your questions have been answred. Just not the way you wanted. You joined 12 hours ago, have four posts and two of them are flaming other members. I suggest you take R2's advice. In the meantime if you want to go on a quest for serial numbers have at it. But drop the insults. Maybe this should be moved now.
 

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bestdressedwrist said:
jmd33 said:
I have both rep and gen Omegas and don't have a clue how many digits are in the s/n of either.

[oh wait - my el cheapo reps don't have serial numbers - I hope I don't get called out :p ]


Really ? you must be incredibly unobservant ! Perhaps my friends have more savvy than you. Again, your post is a complete waste of time and not directed at constructively answering my original question. If you have nothing worthwhile saying, why say anything at all !?

Yeah - your friends and you are probably much more observant and savvy than I am (probably smarter and better looking too). Perhaps you should wait until you have more posts before acting like a total tool.

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P.S. What you want to look for is a 1:1, Grade AAA swiss replica that will pass the loup test when you show it off.
 

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jmd33 said:
bestdressedwrist said:
jmd33 said:
I have both rep and gen Omegas and don't have a clue how many digits are in the s/n of either.

[oh wait - my el cheapo reps don't have serial numbers - I hope I don't get called out :p ]


Really ? you must be incredibly unobservant ! Perhaps my friends have more savvy than you. Again, your post is a complete waste of time and not directed at constructively answering my original question. If you have nothing worthwhile saying, why say anything at all !?

Yeah - your friends and you are probably much more observant and savvy than I am (probably smarter and better looking too). Perhaps you should wait until you have more posts before acting like a total tool.

Tool.jpg



P.S. What you want to look for is a 1:1, Grade AAA swiss replica that will pass the loup test when you show it off.


im sorry i did not realise that to act like a total tool you had to have lots of posts like you, LMAO - I will remember that in future. At least it explains your behaviour too :p

Anyway, enough bitching, I didnt join to bitch and one way or another we have got off on the wrong foot (or wrist).

I just felt everyone was having a go at me just because I wanted a REPLICA to REPLICATE the ORIGINAL. Is that so bad now ?
 

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gentlemen, we pick a sub rep apart and call it crap because the rehaut is 0.2mm too thin or 0.1mm too thick. every one of you know if there were 1 too many numbers in the serial on the back of a pam 111h rep there would be a revolt. the op has a point, this was considered the best rep made when it was introduced. rbj changed the hour markers on his because the rep is too small. i have 2 of these and never noticed it. he found a flaw that not one of us saw after everybody combing this watch and bitching about things more minute than this.


to the op,

congrats man, i thought i had read about every flaw on this watch and to my knowledge you are the first one to mention this. welcome to rwi. :D

to everybody else,

how come none of you guys spotted this? bytor even missed this one. :wink:
 

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how come none of you guys spotted this? bytor even missed this one. :wink:

I missed it because my 21j canal st. reps don't even have numbers on the case - lol :oops:

:lol: :mrgreen:
 

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bestdressedwrist said:
I have seen some sites with the details "Serial Numbers (816880298) engraved Back of Lugs near 7.00 position" for the Omega Seamaster watches.

I thought the Omega serial numbers were 8 digits long and this number is 9 digits.

IMHO this makes the point of replicating a serial number a waste of time.

Am I wrong here in my belief that they should be 8, and are there replicas that are accurate in this respect ?

Good question. It seems like it would be an easy fix for the "factories". Maybe you are the first to ever point it out?
 

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The serial number on an Omega is so f'n small nobody cares. If they can't get the pearl right who the f cares about a number you need magnifying glass to see in the first place. I doubt even an AD would notice it (unless they were running the numbers).

Maybe I should count the vin numbers on my benz before I take it out of the garage - lol.

I'm guessing this dude want's to try and re-sell them as gens on Craigslist. :shock:
 

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jmd33 said:
The serial number on an Omega is so f'n small nobody cares. If they can't get the pearl right who the f cares about a number you need magnifying glass to see in the first place. I doubt even an AD would notice it (unless they were running the numbers).

Maybe I should count the vin numbers on my benz before I take it out of the garage - lol.

I'm guessing this dude want's to try and re-sell them as gens on Craigslist. :shock:

then why are we allowing discussions about the rolex branding position around the rehaut on rolex models? is spirit also just wanting to resell them on craigslist also? i haven't seen anybody post something like that about him. i also haven't seen anybody make an accusation like that when a discussion about incorrect serial numbers on the back of a pam takes place either.
 

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I'm sure that many of the flaws on PAM reps that I fret and fuss over would elicit the same response.

Who are we to judge what flaws are and aren't important to someone?
 

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Good observation on the SN#'s.

I have a Gen SMP and never noticed them on it before.

Thanks! :lol:
 

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then why are we allowing discussions about the rolex branding position around the rehaut on rolex models? is spirit also just wanting to resell them on craigslist also? i haven't seen anybody post something like that about him. i also haven't seen anybody make an accusation like that when a discussion about incorrect serial numbers on the back of a pam takes place either.

Good point - but those people are known and trusted.
 

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jmd33 said:
hk45ca said:
then why are we allowing discussions about the rolex branding position around the rehaut on rolex models? is spirit also just wanting to resell them on craigslist also? i haven't seen anybody post something like that about him. i also haven't seen anybody make an accusation like that when a discussion about incorrect serial numbers on the back of a pam takes place either.

Good point - but those people are known and trusted.

Regardless of "known and trusted", bestdressedwrist still presented a good question.
 
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