Noob V4 Case or H Factory Pam 390

[JLS1963]

I ordered a Noob Pam 390N with new V4 case and Crown Guard and lever from one of our TD's
I received these QC Pictures today, and I think this may be an H Factory Case, not the new Noob V4 Case. The placement of the lug screw holes, the thickness of the bezel is what leads me to beleive its an H Factory Case.
The TD insists its a Noob V4 Case, so I would really appreciate input from the Pam experts.
Please help me identify if this is a Noob or H Factory case, and if its Noob, is it the V4 case and V4 CrownGuard and Lever. From what I can see of the Crown Guard, it doesnt look like the new V4 to me...
Please help me out in identifying which Factory the Case is from. Much appreciated.

 

[kilowattore]

Case looks like noob to me. CG lever is not fully visible but I think it's v3.

One thing I'm sure though: it's a beautiful 390

 

[JLS1963]

I have asked for more QC Pics, but I am having a hard time determining if it is a V4 Case or not. Any input from our Pam experts is appreciated.
Thanks guys!!

 

[kampachi]

V4 case v3 lever.


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[ALE7575]

As usually V4 case and Crown but lever V3

ALE

 

[kampachi]

As usually V4 case and Crown but lever V3

ALE

I cant help to think the latest v4 case is also a little messed up. It seems the space from the lug to the edge is big, similar to a KW case. Somehow i think the new 'owner' (read it somewhere before) messed up the 390. Is it me or is the case a little thick too.. What do you think Ale?

 

[kulubot]

Looks noob. The edges of the case looks a bit softer. A beautiful piece non the less!

 

[ALE7575]

I cant help to think the latest v4 case is also a little messed up. It seems the space from the lug to the edge is big, similar to a KW case. Somehow i think the new 'owner' (read it somewhere before) messed up the 390. Is it me or is the case a little thick too.. What do you think Ale?

Thanks kampachi for your comments

I agree with you that V4 Noob seems to have (some times) the lugs very detached from cushion edge, as you say like KW (old?) case

Regarding thickness I have decided not to make decisions without a direct comparison or a well prepared Photoshop comparison, like we make in the Luminor cases review by Klockis-ALE.

Anyway either Noob or H maker new cases have a lot of variations and differences and we would need to wait for the stabilization of the production.

ALE

 

[Bozz]

Noob without any doubt, Noob V4.

 

[ALE7575]

Noob without any doubt, Noob V4.

I'm afraid I agree

Waiting for KW case info and, of course, lug holes position corrected

ALE

 

[kampachi]

I'm afraid I agree

Waiting for KW case info and, of course, lug holes position corrected

ALE

Are they planning a new case? So far even their new pam still have the old issues.. Maybe you can contact the owner directly

 

[ALE7575]

Are they planning a new case? So far even their new pam still have the old issues.. Maybe you can contact the owner directly

KW has already improved the case, they have changed the insertion and shape of the lugs. KW needs just to change the lug holes position and maybe to get rounded the bezel edges, not as sharp as H maker but sharper than gen edges

ALE

 

[kampachi]

KW has already improved the case, they have changed the insertion and shape of the lugs. KW needs just to change the lug holes position and maybe to get rounded the bezel edges, not as sharp as H maker but sharper than gen edges

ALE

+1. All they have to do is fix the lug position, softer edges and nice crown guard and they will have the best selling Pam medal lol. KW if you are reading this, please do it!

 

[ALE7575]

+1. All they have to do is fix the lug position, softer edges and nice crown guard and they will have the best selling Pam medal lol. KW if you are reading this, please do it!

I agree kamp

ALE

 

[JLS1963]

Thanks for the input and comments. I have asked the TD to attempt to find me a V4 Case with the new V4 CrownGuard Lever. TD said he would try. If unsuccessful I will accept the watch pictured in this thread as it looks great with the only issue being the V3 lever. TD hasnt let me down yet.....

 

[JLS1963]

UPDATE: My TD was unable to find the correct V4 case with newest V4 crownguard/lever. My TD said he looked at many examples the factory offered and none had correct V4 crownguard/lever.
Therefore, I approved the original QC pics posted in this thread. The watch looked amazing with the only downside being the V3 crownguard/lever.
Why can some TD's (Sead) find the correct V4 examples, and others are unsuccessful?
For the record, my TD has always done an amazing job at sourcing watches with the exact specs and replacement parts for me and has always worked hard to meet my requirements.
I am a bit disappointed, but the watch looks great and that very minor shortcoming wont prevent me from enjoying this piece and wearing it proudly.

 

[winz]

+1. All they have to do is fix the lug position, softer edges and nice crown guard and they will have the best selling Pam medal lol. KW if you are reading this, please do it!

can we use noob CG on KW case? are KW case better than noob?

 

[kampachi]

can we use noob CG on KW case? are KW case better than noob?

Never had a chance to try it but what i did try was using a hfac latest cg on a noob case. Not compatible as the dimensions are different.

First the lever now the case. Whats happening to them lol. The last batch of good 390s was from December-Jan this year.

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[ch02]

Hi guyz.
I'm looking for PAM 390 replica.
As i read, best to buy is Noob.
Wich version is actual (best) now?