Noob PAM243 V3 Experiences and Quality

[umaxim]

This is my first post, so hello fellow enthusiasts!
I'm considering getting my fist PAM from intime and thinking towards 243... Ryan has some Noob V3s I see... Could anyone on the forum give me an advice / can tell how it differs from V2 and the most importantly Gen. I apologize if there is a threat already answering that, but I'm very curious about more recent experiences (purchased in 2014 / 2015).

Thank you so much!

UMAXIM

 

[Derik429]

The Pam 243 is amazing V2 or V3..I got mine from vac (modder) as for the differences between v2 or v3. I believe they are minimal. Either way it's top notch!

This is my first post, so hello fellow enthusiasts!
I'm considering getting my fist PAM from intime and thinking towards 243... Ryan has some Noob V3s I see... Could anyone on the forum give me an advice / can tell how it differs from V2 and the most importantly Gen. I apologize if there is a threat already answering that, but I'm very curious about more recent experiences (purchased in 2014 / 2015).

Thank you so much!

UMAXIM

 

[umaxim]

Just ordered 243 V3!

Thanks for the advice Derik! I just ordered mine through Ryan. Can't wait to have it on my wrist

The Pam 243 is amazing V2 or V3..I got mine from vac (modder) as for the differences between v2 or v3. I believe they are minimal. Either way it's top notch!

 

[mysterio]

If you read the ad it states

This is the latest version that the Noob factory has just released at the end of 2013.

It is called the V3 just because of the timing of the release (V2 was before October 2013, V3 was after). In terms of quality, there is virtually no difference as although some pieces looked better, other units from the same batch were worse. The main difference, if you can even call it that, is the subdial. The concentric circles is more apparent on the V2 than on the V3 (on some units, like I said inconsistent) but V3 actually still has CC but more paint was applied, hence not so visible. And this is if you have 200x vision. :lol: Otherwise, to the naked eye, the two are virtually indistinguishable. Anyway, you cannot get V2 now so "V3" is all you can get. Just make sure you check the QCs (don't post them here as they are not allowed, just letting you know ahead of time).

 

[PaMister]

Flaws: "6" is a bit too thick. Lume is bad in numbers (both fades much faster than indexes). Magnifier sucks big time. Most of the time it looks like there is a nick or a scratch in a chrystal depending on lightning. Engravings in a back are a bit weak. other than that it's a great watch. Only lume and specially the magnifier bothers me.

Is "VAC" the man to fix these flaws?

 

[umaxim]

Thanks mysterio - very informative. Pure-Time still claim they send out the last 2011 Vs, but apparently it would be virtually impossible to tell... as you say, each watch is unique in a way... there are better and worse examples in both serious I guess. Thanks again - waiting for QCs within a day or two.

 

[umaxim]

Thanks so much for the to the point comments and shots PaMister - I'm seeing exactly what you mean. I will compare it with my QCs and when get it, the watch - seems like they are not all 100% the same... a draw of the luck might be at play, who knows. I think I can get luminescence fixed with a tritium fix... should check how much to mode it. I can live with a bit bubbly magnification, hopefully.

 

[umaxim]

Yeah, it would be good to know how to fix them up, PaMister!

 

[umirza85]

If you read the ad it states



It is called the V3 just because of the timing of the release (V2 was before October 2013, V3 was after). In terms of quality, there is virtually no difference as although some pieces looked better, other units from the same batch were worse. The main difference, if you can even call it that, is the subdial. The concentric circles is more apparent on the V2 than on the V3 (on some units, like I said inconsistent) but V3 actually still has CC but more paint was applied, hence not so visible. And this is if you have 200x vision. :lol: Otherwise, to the naked eye, the two are virtually indistinguishable. Anyway, you cannot get V2 now so "V3" is all you can get. Just make sure you check the QCs (don't post them here as they are not allowed, just letting you know ahead of time).

Why are pictures of QC not allowed to be posted? Im just curious as I've seen a few references to this over my last few weeks since joining.

 

[R2D4]

Why are pictures of QC not allowed to be posted? Im just curious as I've seen a few references to this over my last few weeks since joining.

You can post QC pic's if you have a specific concern about the watch you are going to buy and you cannot otherwise find an answer anywhere else.

If we allowed all qc pics it gets really nasty in the forums.

 

[R2D4]

Flaws: "6" is a bit too thick. Lume is bad in numbers (both fades much faster than indexes). Magnifier sucks big time. Most of the time it looks like there is a nick or a scratch in a chrystal depending on lightning. Engravings in a back are a bit weak. other than that it's a great watch. Only lume and specially the magnifier bothers me.

Is "VAC" the man to fix these flaws?

The lume on the gen is almost identical to the reps. (12,6 and the hash marks on the subdial) It is less bright than the Indices. I looked at one at Tourneau back in the day. I was surprised. As far as the magnification goes, I think it's a dumb looking feature anyway. lol

Yes Vac can fix these but IMHO it looks great as is. The more you take watches apart to mod them, the odds are pretty good something will go wrong later down the road. That is my experience anyway. Love the watch though. I had V1 and V2 . I own the V3. Loved them all.

 

[umaxim]

Awesome!!! Well, sounds like I made the right choice! I also heard that authentic PAMs especially older ones (PAM 0243 was out 2007-2011 I think) have weaker luminescence especially overtime. Thank you for your advice!

 

[Helldiver]

Dont forget to post some pics! ;-)

 

[Hawker789]

You'll love it mate; I've had my "v3" for a year and it gets so much wrist time!! It really is an excellent watch. I've handled the gem and debated buying it but couldn't justify the money vs. quality of the rep

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[umaxim]

Simply put a stunning rep. I'll post pics as soon as I get it unk:Thanks for validating my choice pals!

You'll love it mate; I've had my "v3" for a year and it gets so much wrist time!! It really is an excellent watch. I've handled the gem and debated buying it but couldn't justify the money vs. quality of the rep


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[umaxim]

Next week hopefully I'll have some photos...

Dont forget to post some pics! ;-)

 

[PaMister]

The lume on the gen is almost identical to the reps. (12,6 and the hash marks on the subdial) It is less bright than the Indices. I looked at one at Tourneau back in the day. I was surprised. As far as the magnification goes, I think it's a dumb looking feature anyway. lol

Yes Vac can fix these but IMHO it looks great as is. The more you take watches apart to mod them, the odds are pretty good something will go wrong later down the road. That is my experience anyway. Love the watch though. I had V1 and V2 . I own the V3. Loved them all.

Really this is news to me if this is the case. Can anyone else confirm that lume is weaker and fades faster in numbers also in gen.?

Thanks for information... but to be honest I don't really know if I'm happy to hear that or not....

 

[umaxim]

PaMister, I heard this from a friend who had an older Gen (024) , but not sure how true that is for newer Super Lumin models. I believe that prior 2005 or 2007 PAM all Gens used tritium - so it seem to apply to earlier collectables, and as my buddy commented "numbers on the dial going a bit opaque and get less bright over time". So I don't think there is a bad news here, especially for V2 / V3.

I have a question on waterproofing... Anyone can confirm that the Noob V3 comes waterproofed for non-extreme activities or would I need to do a mode for it? I am not going to be surfing, but swimming in the pull / diving up to 3-4 m... Will post pictures as soon as unk:

 

[Hawker789]

PaMister, I heard this from a friend who had an older Gen (024) , but not sure how true that is for newer Super Lumin models. I believe that prior 2005 or 2007 PAM all Gens used tritium - so it seem to apply to earlier collectables, and as my buddy commented "numbers on the dial going a bit opaque and get less bright over time". So I don't think there is a bad news here, especially for V2 / V3.

I have a question on waterproofing... Anyone can confirm that the Noob V3 comes waterproofed for non-extreme activities or would I need to do a mode for it? I am not going to be surfing, but swimming in the pull / diving up to 3-4 m... Will post pictures as soon as unk:

I've taken mine sailing and windsurfing and a bit of swimming and mines been fine but as always, worth checking!


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[mysterio]

Really this is news to me if this is the case. Can anyone else confirm that lume is weaker and fades faster in numbers also in gen.?

Thanks for information... but to be honest I don't really know if I'm happy to hear that or not....

It's all about the area. The lume in the dots have a relatively wider and concentrated area compared to the smaller width and spread out numerals and the subdial hashes. The material used is the same but the spread of the lume will affect how it glows. There was a comparison between PAMs and the Seiko divers like the Seiko monster, which uses basically the same lume, just under a different trade name. The Seiko monster lives up to its name with monstrous glow, but it's not because of the lume material per se, but because the indices have a large area where the lume is applied, so it glows stronger than PAM lumed circular indices.