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Noob 112 and 243

shelby1501

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Too bad, I was also interested in 243M but wanted to buy few watches first as I have some PAMs already and now it's not available any more. :/
 

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I'm guessing they won't re release as its probably not a classic and they'll focus on new models.

I'm wondering about the quality of the H-Factory, I have a very nice 061d from H-Factory and it seemed that the Noob V1 was on a par with the H-Factory
 

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I'm guessing they won't re release as its probably not a classic and they'll focus on new models.

I'm wondering about the quality of the H-Factory, I have a very nice 061d from H-Factory and it seemed that the Noob V1 was on a par with the H-Factory

I have the H factory version it's a great rep :)

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Sorry. You're about 2 weeks too late and now everyone is holding onto them.
 

shelby1501

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I'm guessing they won't re release as its probably not a classic and they'll focus on new models.

I'm wondering about the quality of the H-Factory, I have a very nice 061d from H-Factory and it seemed that the Noob V1 was on a par with the H-Factory

It seems everyone who have H is satisfied with it but all says Noob is a bit better. I wouldn't mind to get H-factory as I already have 111 from them and it's a great watch. I haven't got 111N V3 but I can't imagine it can be better from mine. I'm really satisfied with it. :)
 

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It seems everyone who have H is satisfied with it but all says Noob is a bit better. I wouldn't mind to get H-factory as I already have 111 from them and it's a great watch. I haven't got 111N V3 but I can't imagine it can be better from mine. I'm really satisfied with it. :)

Talking about PAM 111:
See the finish of case, and mainly CG (inner edges and corners)
Caseback engravings
Thickness of sandwich dial
The colour, raised and shine of inscriptions on dial
The "engraved" OFFICINE PANERAI of the movement bridge.
And maybe the hands (are they Pre-V type?)
Are your movement high beat?

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Anyway Hmaker will get better crown, better Swan Neck and screw and similar or better crystal
 

shelby1501

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Thanks ALE for description. I know for these differences as I read a lot in your guides but I have never had noob so can't comment how much better it is from H-factory. Just wanted to say that I'm impressed how good H-factory is (especially for the money you paying for it) and that it's hard to believe that noob is even better. Sorry for wrong expression. ;)
 

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Thanks ALE for description. I know for these differences as I read a lot in your guides but I have never had noob so can't comment how much better it is from H-factory. Just wanted to say that I'm impressed how good H-factory is (especially for the money you paying for it) and that it's hard to believe that noob is even better. Sorry for wrong expression. ;)

No worries mate
Don't take me wrong
H maker are impressive too. But just for PAM 111 is better Noob
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shelby1501

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Yes, I know it's better. It's obvious from all reviews of it, especially yours. ;) I went with H because it was cheaper so I rather put that price difference in another watch. :)
 

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Yes, I know it's better. It's obvious from all reviews of it, especially yours. ;) I went with H because it was cheaper so I rather put that price difference in another watch. :)

Of course, the ratio quality/price of PAM 111 is better for H maker by far ... no doubts about that!!
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