New to Rep and RWI - any German TD?

[Hipstermichel]

Hey folks,

I am new to Reps and RWI and did read a lot the last 2 days.
Since there is CN New Year and all is closed basically I did not order anything yet, but am really looking forward to it.

I do have 2 questions I couldnt find an easy answer to in the search:

1. IS there a German TD?
2. What is all that "VSF, GSF, EWF, OMF........" stand for - is it like a producing company? And is one better than the other?


Bought a Gen Tag Heuer Calibre 17 8 years ago, still working great by daily usage.
But I dont want to spend another fortune on watches, especially with 2 babys and a lot of watches I would like to buy.


A bit offtopic not sure this is allowed.
Looking for 3 watches:

- SuperOcean Heritage ii 42mm blue/gold with Mesh bracelet
- Oyster Perpetual 41mm blue, with a reliable movement (maybe 2824)
- Omega Speedmaster Professional Moonwatch Snoopy 50th Edition, white dial


Best regards
Michel

 

[p0pperini]

1. IS there a German TD?
2. What is all that "VSF, GSF, EWF, OMF........" stand for - is it like a producing company? And is one better than the other?

Welcome to RWI! It sounds like you have a lot more reading ahead...

1. There isn't a German TD. Sead (Supermirrors) has UK (and some EU, I believe) stock. Check his list for what's available. You could also message him regarding specific models he doesn't currently have in his available stock list.
2. The "F" stands for "Factory". So yes, these are the "producing companies". And yes, one is better than the other, depending on the make and model watches you're looking at. And that's where the additional reading comes in!

Watch out for the Speedmaster Pro Moonwatch reps, there isn't a really good one out there. The better quality ones have incorrect subdial spacing, but if you aren't fussy about that, they're nice enough. (There's quartz versions with more correct looking subdial/lume plots, but sadly the rest of the watch is massively oversize!)

 

[Feefo]

Oh, come on @p0pperini ,you beat me for 5 secs, now my script is superfluous.
@Hipstermichel welcome to RWI!
What he^^^ said!
If you have any questions, just ask! Have fun

 

[Feefo]

@Raddave ^^^

 

[eBoy]

Is there a German TD?

Willkommen bei RWI!

To your question: Like others have said, there is very limited activity in Europe in this regard.

I think the reason for this is simple: The production is 100% limited to Asia, so it just makes no sense to establish a distribution network over here with even greater legal obstacles. And it's not like the producers in China don't have to deal with this kind of thing over there anyway.

In my estimation you can 100% trust the dealers in China, especially the ones that have "Trusted" status on RWI. They have years of experience of getting the desired merchandise safely and trouble-free to pretty much any place on the planet. Really there's no need for EU or CONUS based distribution. You will understand once you ordered your first rep.

And if you still have doubts, there is of course the possibility of buying from other EU or even Germany based members in the sales section on here. If you just do you your due diligence ("buy the seller"), then it's possibly the easiest and fastest way to buy a rep. If you feel cocky, you may even buy one from the UK if you need the "customs thrill kicks" lol. I did once, and even that worked out well. Hahaha!

There are many very interesting and super helpful resources for newbies on here. Keep reading them & learn, that would be my advice!

Viel Spass auf RWI. Have fun!

 

[eBoy]

- Omega Speedmaster Professional Moonwatch Snoopy 50th Edition, white dial

Be warned though that the Speedy Pro reps will have one big tell: The sub dial spacing is very off due to the lack of a proper movement that the rep factories can use. They can be identified as reps from a mile away.

That is actually the reason I bought a Speedmaster moonwatch gen last year, even though I always wanted a gen Seamaster (before I discovered reps).

Well, thanks to RWI, I now have 3 high-end Seamaster reps and a gen Moonwatch and I'm happy as can. Lol

 

[eBoy]

Watch out for the Speedmaster Pro Moonwatch reps, there isn't a really good one out there. The better quality ones have incorrect subdial spacing, but if you aren't fussy about that, they're nice enough. (There's quartz versions with more correct looking subdial/lume plots, but sadly the rest of the watch is massively oversize!)

Exactly. Those are mechaquartz and they have like 44 or 45mm cases. If it has to be a rep by all means, then I'd prefer the handwound ones with wrong sub dial spacing, but at least correct 42mm cases. Lol

 

[Hipstermichel]

Be warned though that the Speedy Pro reps will have one big tell: The sub dial spacing is very off due to the lack of a proper movement that the rep factories can use. They can be identified as reps from a mile away.

That is actually the reason I bought a Speedmaster moonwatch gen last year, even though I always wanted a gen Seamaster (before I discovered reps).

Well, thanks to RWI, I now have 3 high-end Seamaster reps and a gen Moonwatch and I'm happy as can. Lol

Feels kinda weird to have a Gen multi thousand € watch and looking here for reps.

But yeah we all want more cool stuff but that would be 50-100k€ for watches.

Thanks for the tip with the Omega.
Will take an Oyster and a Breitling as well.

 

[p0pperini]

Feels kinda weird to have a Gen multi thousand € watch and looking here for reps.

Nah.

 

[aHero]

Feels kinda weird to have a Gen multi thousand € watch and looking here for reps.

But yeah we all want more cool stuff but that would be 50-100k€ for watches.

Thanks for the tip with the Omega.
Will take an Oyster and a Breitling as well.

Several members own 10s of thousands worth of gens.

 

[eBoy]

Probably the biggest misconception people outside of this "scene" have about owners of replicas is that we're all poor chaps on welfare and that's why we own "fake watches". Lol

Well, actually quite the opposite is true: here, you will meet owners of really super-expensive genuine watches in unusually high amounts in their collection (like our AP expert 'legend' and others) among the long-standing members in a much higher density than on some of the smaller gen forums for example, simply because, quite ironically, the appreciation of the genuine stuff here is much higher, because of the incredible knowledge and experience the folks on here have with both worlds.

Sounds kinda paradox, but after you've spent some time here you'll understand what I mean.

 

[Hipstermichel]

Probably the biggest misconception people outside of this "scene" have about owners of replicas is that we're all poor chaps on welfare and that's why we own "fake watches". Lol

Well, actually quite the opposite is true: here, you will meet owners of really super-expensive genuine watches in unusually high amounts in their collection (like our AP expert 'legend' and others) among the long-standing members in a much higher density than on some of the smaller gen forums for example, simply because, quite ironically, the appreciation of the genuine stuff here is much higher, because of the incredible knowledge and experience the folks on here have with both worlds.

Sounds kinda paradox, but after you've spent some time here you'll understand what I mean.

Did not mean to offend people or tell that rep buyers cannot be wealthy.

Just thought that rep buyers dont want ro spend a fortune, not that they arent able to

 

[eBoy]

Hey, no offense taken. Not at all.

Just trying to share my own perspective, because tbh, before I became a member I too was completely unaware of the fact that replica experts know gens much better than the "only gen" owners...

That's why, if you want to have a watch legit checked, this place is a million times more competent to help, because the top experts here not only know reps in and out, but also gen watches.

The skills, knowledge and experience here with gens (and reps alike) is sometimes truly mind blowing to witness and dwarfs every gen forum's I know.

 

[eBoy]

Just thought that rep buyers dont want ro spend a fortune, not that they arent able to

I think the key to understand the rep scene is that the top guys here are purists and realists.

Nobody of them will lie to you and tell you that you can get the SAME thing for a tenth or less of the gen price.

Also, "there is no 1:1 rep", that's an often repeated mantra. There's only one 1:1 copy of a watch, and that copy is called "gen". A running joke by long-standing members is to answer "R-factory" to the question "who has the best Sub". R-factory, as in Rolex factory. Lol

Bottom line is: Reps have to be viewed as an opportunity to enjoy 80 to 90% of the visual and haptic experience for a small fraction of the gen price. A Chinese clone movement, however, will never give you 80 or 90% of the mechanical experience of the gen. In this regard, it gives you exactly 0% of the experience. If we are talking in-house movements like for example Omega Co-Axial, that is. For ETA based gens, this experience can be slightly improved (but never 100%) by replacing the Asian clones with real Swiss ETAs.

If that basic concept is understood and internalized, it will prevent disappointments with reps. Because fails like fallen off hands or indices or even exploded movements will inevitably happen if you buy enough reps, much more often than with gens.

 

[Procurator]

I see you took it upon yourself to educate the "younglinks" @eBoy Good job mate

 

[eBoy]

I see you took it upon yourself to educate the "younglinks" @eBoy Good job mate

I hope I don't come across as a know-it-all smart ass, because that's not my intention. Just trying to share hopefully helpful info from one (slightly more experienced) Noob to another Noob.

 

[Procurator]

Not at all brother, all valid and helpful points.

 

[crashworkz]

I see you took it upon yourself to educate the "younglinks" @eBoy Good job mate

Someone has to pick it up from @P..DR..D now that he’s too busy approving sales and keeping us safe from strangers.

 

[Feefo]

Someone has to pick it up from @P..DR..D now that he’s too busy approving sales and keeping us safe from strangers.

Keep on doing this! Rwi is a welcoming community, we need to keep up this spirit!

 

[chrisss123]

Hello, i am from germany. I buy my first replica tag heuer formular 1 from luxerywatch by etsi from london. Its new and very nice like my original that was stolen, but it is an automatic. I was sad and realy wanted to have it again, but I didn't wand to spend 1300 euros again for an original clock. Sorry for my bad english. Regards

Hey folks,

I am new to Reps and RWI and did read a lot the last 2 days.
Since there is CN New Year and all is closed basically I did not order anything yet, but am really looking forward to it.

I do have 2 questions I couldnt find an easy answer to in the search:

1. IS there a German TD?
2. What is all that "VSF, GSF, EWF, OMF........" stand for - is it like a producing company? And is one better than the other?


Bought a Gen Tag Heuer Calibre 17 8 years ago, still working great by daily usage.
But I dont want to spend another fortune on watches, especially with 2 babys and a lot of watches I would like to buy.


A bit offtopic not sure this is allowed.
Looking for 3 watches:

- SuperOcean Heritage ii 42mm blue/gold with Mesh bracelet
- Oyster Perpetual 41mm blue, with a reliable movement (maybe 2824)
- Omega Speedmaster Professional Moonwatch Snoopy 50th Edition, white dial


Best regards
Michel