new pam438 , looks nice ?

[Sora]

funny thing is that these were only rated B by the factory, looks good to me thou..
got this from the market last week

 

[COLDI]

Looks cool

 

[pheeos]

Very nice!
Is the power reserve working or faux?

Greets!

 

[carlton]

Not a fan of ceramic/DLC/PVD Luminor but the movement look beautiful.

 

[tranzmizzion]

Real ceramic?

 

[Sora]

faux PR , dlc coated . not ceramic

 

[carlton]

After looking pic of the gen, I find that the color of the printing on dial and wording is wrong, should be patina color and should be ceramic not ceramica. The size of the date window is also wrong, too small.

 

[ALE7575]

Sorry Sora to say I don't like it at all
No worries about bracelet, I assume it is not possible at this moment, or even ceramic material
Date window and wheel fonts.... no comments
Markers Lume, inscriptions colour and hand lume non matching, very different colours
CERAMICA is ok but wrong colour
Wrong engravings in caseback (even engraved Stainless Steel)
Movement decoration is a good attempt but has lighter inscriptions (they are greyer in gen), and you can read 28 jewels instead of 29

With such date wheel I assume a cheap movement and then a non expensive replica.

This is not the way to go for a modern quality PAM replica.
Nowadays PAM people are asking for other care for details and accuracy.

Sorry, this is just my opinion
ALE

 

[cosmicgate]

I have to agree with ALE as well, i don't like it too and will wait.

 

[Sora]

I did say this is the b grade version, so the makers should be planning the a grade version

 

[jonchar]

I did say this is the b grade version, so the makers should be planning the a grade version

Not everyone is an expert and for a noob like me, it is beautiful.

Wear it in good health my friend!

 

[shelby1501]

CERAMICA is ok but wrong colour

ALE are you sure ceramica is ok because every picture of gen that I saw on web says ceramic on dial? I know 441 has ceramica but I'm not sure about this one.

Not everyone is an expert and for a noob like me, it is beautiful.

Wear it in good health my friend!

Sora is a dealer mate, this is not his watch.

 

[ALE7575]

ALE are you sure ceramica is ok because every picture of gen that I saw on web says ceramic on dial? I know 441 has ceramica but I'm not sure about this one.

There are some catalogues and even prototypes with CERAMIC but, the real thing, the watches for sale are CERAMICA,

http://www.9maiali.com/shopping/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=2282

http://www.watchuwant.com/watches/panerai-pam-438

http://www.chrono24.com/en/panerai/pam-438-tuttonero--id2587166.htm

http://www.chronollection.de/panera...-days-gmt-all-black-watch-pam-438-id98751.htm

ALE

 

[shelby1501]

Interesting. Thanks!

 

[mysterio]

It's a usual ploy by OP to change things on press shots and CG images just to throw the replica makers off.

 

[ALE7575]

It's a usual ploy by OP to change things on press shots and CG images just to throw the replica makers off.

+1
Thanks
ALE

 

[Norrie]

Isn't a 438 a Tuttonero with ceramic bracelet? This is a 441.

 

[ALE7575]

PAM 441 has Chromed decorated movement not Black

It really is a Tuttonero without bracelet.
It is an Almost-Tutto-nero
LOL

ALE