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According to another forum, kuvarsit already has the updated 390 released.
http://www.rwg.bz/board/index.php?showtopic=50990

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The CG cutouts look like they were cut with a saber saw.Terrible.

The lugs are a step back to the point of being DSN.

In one photo the lever is so far away from the bridge that the bushing is almost visible. Sloppy.

Why in hell would anyone buy this? Enlighten me on the merits of this case over a v3?

The photography is nice on a positive note.
 
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what about the other side lug screws? Thats where the current problem is.
 
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Compare it to a gen and the lug profile is wrong, very wrong.
 
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I so want a good 390, its a great design. I will hold of until ALE has one in his hands though.
 
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hubrisin said:
Compare it to a gen and the lug profile is wrong, very wrong.
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THESE ARE PROVISIONAL PICS TO BE IMPROVED IN FINAL THREAD

The lugs, althought the differences, are very similar in practice.
You can see the differences in below pic.
The position of the screw hole is wrong in KW



And in below pic you can see the differences with the GEN profile in orange.
The Noob is wrong in upper side and KW is wrong in lower side, as indicated by the orange arrows. But no one is very very wrong.




The main flaws
Please observe a GEN from 6 or 12 and then a Noob and see the part over the lug marked in green. The Noob since is wrong in upper side leaves a very little space between the upper part of the lug and the edge of the case (marked green). KW green distance is more accurate.
This is IMO the main flaw of the magnificent Noob case. And this is the first part you see when you observe a watch in your wrist !!
As you can see the position of the holes is good in Noob and wrong in KW. This is the worse flaw of magnificent KW case (but can be easily corrected by Kw IMO)

Now, show a watch KW and a Noob V3 to some people fans, non fans, male & female, Watch lovers and Non lovers, young and old... and ask them waht is the best looking and GEN-like watch... You will be astonished by the replies... almost unanimity. Do you imagine the winner ??
I think this is an interesting test.
KW watch has something speacial that you cannot explain it.
For me it is a very special care for details, fitting and finsih and using very high quality materials.

Therefore don't establish so fast Noob is good and KW is wrong, very wrong. All them have flaws.

PLEASE WAIT FOR THE FINAL REVIEW WITH CORRECT PICS, COMPARISONS AND MEASUREMENTS

ALE
 
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Where the bluegrass sways!
@ALE has Mehmet ever replied to the issue of lug hole placement? Did you get the chance to ask him seems a simple reset of bore and tap that would cost nothing on further runs, and as you and I have said this is the biggest visible flaw and I have studied my 417 there would and should be no issues moving the bar placement!

@hubrisin to each his own! But man do you ever bash :beatahorse: on KV offers every post! Do you actually own one? Don't be so quick to bash till you handle one as Ale has stated there is a feel to these watches "it may be all in our heads" but I don't think that is the case! These are very nice super rep status watches that need on there v2 release a few things addressed! If Mehmet truly is interested in setting the Pam rep world on its ear he could, just listen to what ALE and the community are saying which it seems he may and there it is an awesome rep made better!!
 
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I don't want to say nothing to Mehmet until not to have the complete review and suggest the complete solution to the issues. I think it is woorth seeing the quality we can get.

People don't want to see the matter about this new generation of replicas. It is the same in other forums. Many people are saying they have some flaws and comparing them with Noob V3 instead of making the comparison with the GEN.
Noob is not the reference, the reference is the GEN.
Fortunately many fans are buying these replicas and enjoying their quality although the little flaws.

And I repeat, don't talk about this watch without seeing it. It is not a matter of accuracy it is a matter of GEN-like sensation.
You cannot see some flaws without a direct comparison, a careful observation or a loupe, but you can feel the GEN-like look from a meter of distance.
As you know I'm very sensible to the little flaws but these replicas are changing my point of view.
If we can get some corrections from KW we could have the REFERENCE Super reps.

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Agree on the wait, till all things are considered, I am not as handy with photoshop as yourself ALE, but what compares I have and can do these are fairly close. The feel is hard to explain it truly does have some kind of different but quality feel to it compared to the h and noob, I don't really know what is or how to explain!

Ale have you any better way? or anyone else who is experiencing this should way in with a possible explanation to the tactile feel of quality!!

JUST HARD TO PUT WORDS TO IT!!!
 
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Basing on the lughole position, I may have handled this KV390 in one of my visits.



As anal as I am with the other brands, I can confirm that this Pam has a gen-like feel that I only felt with my Rolex TC sub and Breitling swissfish (both top of the heap in their respective categories). This is the same reason why I am now beginning to look at Pam in a new light and giving it a try.

I will wait for your full report Ale and will take it from there.
 
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This rep is now shipping, Mehmet posted over on RWG about it, and price is really good too, around $268 I think it was/is.
 
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ALE: Thanks for taking the time to specify the lug-issue. It has been largely debated and thrown around on the fora, but for the life of me I've had a hard time actually identifying the problem on my KW417. Your illustration helped a lot:)

How far are you guys from completing the review, btw. Days, weeks, a month?
Not being pushy, just very, very excited to read it...:)
 
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arcadia said:
Basing on the lughole position, I may have handled this KV390 in one of my visits.
As anal as I am with the other brands, I can confirm that this Pam has a gen-like feel that I only felt with my Rolex TC sub and Breitling swissfish (both top of the heap in their respective categories). This is the same reason why I am now beginning to look at Pam in a new light and giving it a try.

I will wait for your full report Ale and will take it from there.
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Thanks arcadia for your info and opinion.
I agree with you

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Sorry but the bottom bevel of the bezel is wrong. Too high, like 5218 models...

Imho last Noob V3 caseset is actually the best one.
 
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Kleen said:
How far are you guys from completing the review, btw. Days, weeks, a month?
Not being pushy, just very, very excited to read it...:)
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There is a lot of info involved. We have many pics. We are studying the three cases: Noob, H maker and KW and then the Boutiques KW and H maker.
We would like to get a evaluations by points....
...too much...
I think about a month

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Sorry but the bottom bevel of the bezel is wrong. Too high, like 5218 models...
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What do you means ?
Have you some pics or draws to ilustrate it ?
As far as I know only the transition edges of the bezel profile have differences. Noob is more rounded like gen. The rest is the same.
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hubrisin said:
The CG cutouts look like they were cut with a saber saw.Terrible.

The lugs are a step back to the point of being DSN.

In one photo the lever is so far away from the bridge that the bushing is almost visible. Sloppy.

Why in hell would anyone buy this? Enlighten me on the merits of this case over a v3?

The photography is nice on a positive note.
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LOL on a positive note nice post!:hehehe:
 
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ALE7575 said:
There is a lot of info involved. We have many pics. We are studying the three cases: Noob, H maker and KW and then the Boutiques KW and H maker.
We would like to get a evaluations by points....
...too much...
I think about a month

ALE
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Looking at the previous reviews made by the PCT it is quite obvious that these must take a very long time to compile, evaluate and write up. But the outcome is referential to most on the board, so definitely worth the wait...:)

Will the '50-cases of the 312 be evaluated as well, or is that next round?
 
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