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Has anyone received one of these? Did you know that the deco plates are not screwed onto the movement but that the deco is all part of an elaborate movement mounting ring and that I have no idea what movement is in there. The only way I could get the movement of of the case was to cut the stem and then nothing else made sense. I hope that this specific piece is not the same as all of them. I can't even figure out how to get the stem out- no button not even a lever like Seikos. I would love to hear from anyone who took one of these apart.
 

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Here are a few pic of the rear of the movement and the inside of the carrier- the other side of the carrier looks just like the deco plate setup on other Pams.


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Well- Pam folks- Any ideas on what movement this watch has or even how to remove the stem?
 

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Wasn't this a custom-made movement that began with noob and ended with J12? Not sure what it's based on.
 

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Wasn't this a custom-made movement that began with noob and ended with J12? Not sure what it's based on.

Yep, Noob started the project, they abandoned it, but the movement project team continued without Noob and when they finished it, JF was the only factory interested in using it. That in a nutshell. :)
 

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That is interesting- after seeing this in person I don't know how any factory could let something like this get into the public with no apparent way to service it.