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My review: PAM-187 (a bit long, sorry!)

Veratio

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13/3/07
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Got this tuesday from Sean at etaswiss. Had some customsissues so the package was delayed about 10 days. I blame easter too.

I never liked the submersible models. But this is such a big old brutal watch, I instantly fell in love with it when I saw it. But it was steep. To steep for me at 11.500 usd. This is my first replica.


PAM-18701.jpg


First, I must say it is a very well made watch. It is huge, both in hight and in weight. Not as wide as my XXL Railmaster, but it sure is a real beast. When I first got it, the bezelmarker at 12 o´clock was loose. Lost it. But found it using a good flashlight and setting the room dark. A neat trick actually. Glued it back on and I hope it will stay this way. It looks better on the watch than on the floor.



PAM-18702.jpg


Look at that thickness. I love it.



PAM-18705.jpg


Here you can see the HE valve and the datechanger (doesn´t work, you set the date with the wheel as usual).



PAM-18703.jpg


Came with a real nice rubber band and a decent buckle. Wears quite comfortable considering its size. Might change to leather later on, but for now, I am pleased.



PAM-18708.jpg


Another pic of the strap.



PAM-18709.jpg


Did not know that it was swiss made! A nice surprise... :wink:



PAM-18707.jpg


The back looks just like the real one, in my opinion.



PAM-18704.jpg


The datewheel is wrong. It is set too deep. But it is okay, barely noticable if you look directly at the watch. The dust is on the glass, not on the datewheel. This picture really turned out bad.



PAM-18706.jpg


Here is an uneven sizecomparison. It actually looks larger than the Railmaster and let me assure you, it is not.


My impression so far is very good. The quality seems alright. It runs about 25 seconds fast a day, not bad considering. Might even out a bit though, as I have experienced in the past. The watch has the asian 7750.

It is a hassle to set though. The minute hand doesn´t start moving until after about 30 seconds, so you will have to check and double-check to get the minute/second allignment perfect. I am pretty sure that I will get used to it soon though.

I am looking forward for more summer over here, it´s going to look good with a shortsleeved shirt. I hope you will all excuse my poor photographing skills, but poor quality pictures is better than no pictures at all...



Thanks for reading this far.


Take care,



Niclas from Sweden
 

Hambone

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Tak for the nice review and pics. Thats a good looking watch and great choice for a first rep. It is a pam that I have always thought about, but have not pulled the trigger on just yet. Get a nice leather starp on it and you will be amazed at how cool it looks. Congrats.
 

ganjamun

Active Member
5/3/07
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Congrats, thats truly a fine buy!

I would recommend you get a GEN rubber strap :)
 

SD4K

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25/10/06
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Nice review, thanks for your effort!
Cheers!
 

pedrobrites

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16/2/07
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i'm not very fan of this series of Panerai but, this one is beautiful . Congrats on your watch by the way nice review !

:D
 

Veratio

Active Member
13/3/07
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Thanks for your kind words guys!

It is a real neat watch! I wear it all the time now. I forgot to mention that the lume is so-so. I suppose, basic replica-lume. It works but it is nothing special. Not anal about that though.



Take care,



Niclas from Sweden
 

JCM1662

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6/6/06
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Niclas,

Nice review brother. I've been looking to get this watch for sometime now - I too like the size, but am not hooked on the rubber straps. Seeing your review, I might just get one - if river has his $149 shipped sale again, I'll definately pick it up.

How does it look on a leather strap? Have any pics?

Thanks and enjoy your watch!

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salmonia

Getting To Know The Place
7/3/07
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Veratio said:
Got this tuesday from Sean at etaswiss. Had some customsissues so the package was delayed about 10 days. I blame easter too.

I never liked the submersible models. But this is such a big old brutal watch, I instantly fell in love with it when I saw it. But it was steep. To steep for me at 11.500 usd. This is my first replica.


PAM-18701.jpg


First, I must say it is a very well made watch. It is huge, both in hight and in weight. Not as wide as my XXL Railmaster, but it sure is a real beast. When I first got it, the bezelmarker at 12 o´clock was loose. Lost it. But found it using a good flashlight and setting the room dark. A neat trick actually. Glued it back on and I hope it will stay this way. It looks better on the watch than on the floor.



PAM-18702.jpg


Look at that thickness. I love it.



PAM-18705.jpg


Here you can see the HE valve and the datechanger (doesn´t work, you set the date with the wheel as usual).



PAM-18703.jpg


Came with a real nice rubber band and a decent buckle. Wears quite comfortable considering its size. Might change to leather later on, but for now, I am pleased.



PAM-18708.jpg


Another pic of the strap.



PAM-18709.jpg


Did not know that it was swiss made! A nice surprise... :wink:



PAM-18707.jpg


The back looks just like the real one, in my opinion.



PAM-18704.jpg


The datewheel is wrong. It is set too deep. But it is okay, barely noticable if you look directly at the watch. The dust is on the glass, not on the datewheel. This picture really turned out bad.



PAM-18706.jpg


Here is an uneven sizecomparison. It actually looks larger than the Railmaster and let me assure you, it is not.


My impression so far is very good. The quality seems alright. It runs about 25 seconds fast a day, not bad considering. Might even out a bit though, as I have experienced in the past. The watch has the asian 7750.

It is a hassle to set though. The minute hand doesn´t start moving until after about 30 seconds, so you will have to check and double-check to get the minute/second allignment perfect. I am pretty sure that I will get used to it soon though.

I am looking forward for more summer over here, it´s going to look good with a shortsleeved shirt. I hope you will all excuse my poor photographing skills, but poor quality pictures is better than no pictures at all...



Thanks for reading this far.


Take care,



Niclas from Sweden

Thanks for a very nice review!
Enjoy the watch and wear in good health.
btw; Hot got you here, to this dark place?....... :wink: :wink: :wink:

Have a nice weekend!
salmonia
 

Highflyingclive

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The 187 is one of my favourite Panerai - the build quality is superb, which I hope shows in this detail pic of mine:

detail.jpg


I'm told that the "He" on the helium release valve should be engraved, not raised. I won't lose any sleep over that :)
 

Sylar

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Very good review. not that long though so keep them coming.
 

johnzalez

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I'm thinking this is going to be my next watch. Thanks for the review!

Question: what size wrist do you have?
 

Veratio

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13/3/07
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I have about 7,25 inches (18,5 cms).

The watch looks good on my wrist. There is a 187 with a nice MP strap in the for sale section now.

I have only one 26 mm leather strap, and it is on my Invicta Grand Lupah now, so I will not be changing the rubber anytime soon.

I too have heard that the HE valve should be ingraved, but that is a minor problem!



Have a good weekend all.




Niclas from Sweden
 

ultra

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Congrats on a nice watch!

Good to see you here, friend!

Regards Ultra/ aka :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: Toni
 

salmonia

Getting To Know The Place
7/3/07
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ultra said:
Congrats on a nice watch!

Good to see you here, friend!

Regards Ultra/ aka :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: Toni

Go away!...you "Sinnless" bastard!
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
 

sexypapa

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JCM1662 said:
Niclas,

Nice review brother. I've been looking to get this watch for sometime now - I too like the size, but am not hooked on the rubber straps. Seeing your review, I might just get one - if river has his $149 shipped sale again, I'll definately pick it up.

How does it look on a leather strap? Have any pics?

Thanks and enjoy your watch!

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What? :shock: :shock:
River had it on sale for $149 shipped?????? :!: :!: :!:
When was that? Da*n, I missed a big time!
 

Ferrariman

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I have this watch and recently put a TC leather strap on it...WOW what a difference this change made. It just made the watch look so refined. Amazing. You might consider trying it see if you agree.
 

Veratio

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Thanks for the advice, I am thinking of replacing the rubber with leather, but for now, I am very pleased with it. When I get a bit more bored with it and want a new look, I sure will do it.

Have any pictures of your watch with leather band?