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My first Pam (the 299N) An overview

300kph

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Been a watch guy for 35 years and anyone who may have read some of my earlier posts may remember the story about when I first saw a rep in the late 80’s. It was a cheap Rolex President in awful brassy gold plate and a really loose bracelet and poorly done face.

A few years ago I saw how the quality and variety of reps went way up. I joined a forum a couple years back and trolled for a while and gave up interest until a few weeks ago when I came across the review of the new 299N Pam.

Having never owned a gen Pam (or handled one for that matter) I was very impressed with the detail of this new release.

For those of you have not seen the side-by-side review (gen vs rep) here it is: http://www.rwg.bz/board/index.php?showtopic=46515

So, a couple weeks ago I took the leap and ordered not one but two reps (the 299N and a high-end Rolex copy from another seller)

I ordered this 299N from Josh at Perfect Clones. He was super-friendly and very prompt in answering my questions and he accepted Visa which was a plus since WU charges $30 (something I had to do when I ordered the Rolex rep)

I wanted to be able to have several looks for the 299 so I ordered the rep rubber strap w/ rep deployment (also from PC) and found a gorgeous black croc TWB strap w/ rep deployment from a forum member who responded to a post I made about croc straps. Thanks E!

Coming from North America the croc strap arrived a couple days ago and just today (12 mere days from ordering) my 299N arrived. BTW: Packaging was excellent. all parts covered with the clear tack coating (neoprene or whatever that stuff is) and then bubble wrapped and then in a styrofoam "coffin" and that all in a larger cardboard box. Zero hassle delivery.

As I yet do not have a quality set of micro screwdrivers (I have some coming!) I took the watch to my watchmaker to have it sized. My guy worked for a Rolex AD until he opened his own store and routinely services and works on my gens. He sells Bulova, Seiko and other entry level brands, deals in high-end pre-owned watches and really knows his stuff. I made no bones about it being a rep. He admitted he had never worked on any gen Pams but said he was thoroughly impressed with the quality and workmanship. Lucky for me and my 7†wrist, pulling 2 links on each side made for a perfect fit.

The big beefy bracelet adds to the watch’s big weight but it felt great on my wrist. I was certain it was going to look obscenely large. To the contrary, it looks great with the SS bracelet.

I am much happier with this piece than I am with a pricey Rolex rep I got last week. And, at $481 (all in including the rubber strap) on my Visa (exchange and shipping) this Pam rep cost me over $200 LESS that the Rolex rep and blew me away! Having worn gen Rolex for most of my adult life I am no doubt more critical than I am with the Pam (having never worn or even handled one) Still, the overall build quality of the 299 is amazing and quite obvious. They did an amazing job with the big bracelet and the case, crystal, stem are all outstanding.

I will wear it with the croc strap for a couple days and get a feel for it and see how well it keeps time. Winding action and stem / guard function are perfect. The only critique I can make is the movement sounds a bit "tinny" if you quickly rotate (shake-wind) the watch close to your ear. Something I assume you would not hear in a gen. And this is a very, very minor critique.

The look and feel is awesome and anyone thinking about a Pam who likes the idea of being able to bounce from SS bracelet to a rubber / leather / exotic band in 5 minutes should grab a 299N from Josh at PC immediately. I give him an Perfect Clones my highest recommendation.


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Spboudart

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That black croc looks exactly like an Oem black croc.
How is the overall quality?
 

scropper

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Great review of the whole deal - am sure many will find this useful and confidence-inspiring.

Thanks
 

ALE7575

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Thanks for your review and info
We appreciate your recommendation about dealer, but PC is not a RWI Trusted Dealer
Just for general info

ALE
 

300kph

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Thought PC was a TD. Well, he is at another forum and I bounce back between the 2.

Sorry if I was not supposed to mention that here. I may not be familar with allt he protocal here but it seemed reasonable to post my satisfaction.

And he is trusted in my books. Pretty sure it's not beginner's luck. He was prompt and courteous and even sent me pics of my watch on the meter, and then pics of it being packed up and photos of the shipping label. Everything.

The WATCH BOYS strap is terrific. Looks very high end. Bought froma forum member. Sold me the 2nd rep deployment too. A good deal.

I give this watch a very enthusiastic 2 thumbs up.

And after one day it lost just 7 seconds. My gen Sub TT gains 4-5 a day.

I'm a happy camper!

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ALE7575

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Thought PC was a TD. Well, he is at another forum and I bounce back between the 2.

Sorry if I was not supposed to mention that here. I may not be familar with allt he protocal here but it seemed reasonable to post my satisfaction.

And he is trusted in my books. Pretty sure it's not beginner's luck. He was prompt and courteous and even sent me pics of my watch on the meter, and then pics of it being packed up and photos of the shipping label. Everything.

The WATCH BOYS strap is terrific. Looks very high end. Bought froma forum member. Sold me the 2nd rep deployment too. A good deal.

I give this watch a very enthusiastic 2 thumbs up.

And after one day it lost just 7 seconds. My gen Sub TT gains 4-5 a day.

I'm a happy camper!

W

No worries about. No very serious
Only to point it for future buyers
Congrats
I have my 299K Noob in its way, from Toro.

ALE
 
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d4m.test

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I have my 299K Noob in its way, from Toro.

ALE

I'm sure you already know...thus why you purchased.... The quality is amazing.... I would love to see your review on it after you have it in hand.

I can't find a flaw with it. The differences from Gen are miniscule.

To the OP...Nice purchase! Welcome to the 299 Club!
 

300kph

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UPDATE: Swapped the croc out for the SS for a few days. I love the feel of this massive steel bracelet. Fits me perfectly. The presto-chango system for swapping straps / bracelets is pure genius.

Oiled the pins up a bit and put a tiny bit of magic tape (the cloudy colored Scotch tape? A bit thinner than regular Scotch tape) on the set link that runs between the lugs to prevent them from scratching the case.

A few shots taken with my phone:
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The movement rotor rattle sound in 299N is existing in gen, too. Search for "7750 wobble" over internet :)


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300kph

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UPDATE: Have had this watch for 6 weeks now and it has become one of my favorite pieces. It is super-accurate and depending on how it is stored for the night it hardly loses or gains any time at all. I guess I got a really good movement.

Love the croc strap but the SS bracelet is also gorgeous.

The temptation to order another Pam is strong but I'm saving up for a gen Oris Divers (small seconds / blue wave face) OK... I'll probably get another Pam if I can find another of this build quality. Suggestions?

QUESTION: Will the croc band off this watch only work with other Pams with the quick-change feature? And while a dumb question; the SS bracelet will not work on any other Pam correct?

If you are on the fence about a Pam rep. This one is a 10 out of 10 in my books!

W