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My Canal St shitter

Boyoboy

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Thought I'd post about picking up a shitter GMT-master from Canal St in NYC in case anyone else thinks about doing the same thing...

I was in Canal St NYC today and there are fake watches everywhere. Either out in the open from Africans or from Chinese mostly women with printouts. I mean they are everywhere. The asking price was generally around $80 from the street guys (I'm sure they would take anything).

I did a quick Google to better understand what others had said, which led me to a few threads that said there are better quality reps if you go into a store (generally a souvenir or electronics) that has watches on display out front. So I went into one and immediate a guy comes up to me and asks what I'm looking for. I say a rolex, but not the crap in the window. So he says follow me and takes me to the back of the store where he has a case of watches covered under a cloth (like he was hiding it). In the case is a bunch of Rolex (and AP) reps. I look at a black submariner and it's crap. I tell him these are the same crap as everyone else has. And he asks if I want a better one? I said yes, show me the good ones. He then proceeds to get a second case, under another piece of cloth and it has other Rolex reps. He says these ones are $150. I compared a "better" submariner to the first one he showed me, and I must admit it was definitely better. I found a GMT master Batman rep and it looked pretty good. It had a 904L label on the bracelet and had all the plastic wrap that a Chinese factory rep would have on it. At first glance it looked pretty good. And I thought because the Sub was actually better, maybe the GMT would be too.

I've always wanted a GMT or submariner rep, so I haggled the price to around $80. Thought I would buy it to see if I liked it. This is a rep of a 126710BLNR with jubilee bracelet.

So here's the good:
  1. Overall it looks decent. I compared to a picture of a gen online, it looks good enough for what I paid for it. I know I will get crap for saying that, but it's "good enough" for me.
  2. I actually don't know how the gen time setting works, but this watch has three positions - 1st is winding, 2nd is GMT hand in one direction and date in other direction, and 3rd is regular time setting.
  3. The crystal clarity seems good enough and the watch is "shiny" enough to look good (enough) to me
  4. There was enough lume that I could see it in the dark (only was in the dark for 15 mins, so no idea how long it lasts)
  5. The magnifier seems to be centered and the date numbers are all centered. The markers and text all seem like they are in the right place.
  6. It hasn't stopped working since I bought it today LOL
The not good:
  1. Well, once I got all the plastic off, it's definitely NOT 904 steel LOL. It's cheap metal, reminds me of a Pagani Design bracelet. Shitty feeling, loose and light. In my defense, I couldn't tell with all the plastic on it (and it did say 904L!)
  2. The clasp is something else. It requires so much force to open it, I think I'm going to either break it or cut my fingers open. You really have to pull a lot to open it
  3. The bezel does not have a great feeling when turning. It's sticky (feels like it's catching on something) and doesn't have a good clicky feel. It does turn at least.
So is it any better than a Canal St shitter? I don't know. Maybe I should have bought one to compare. But for it's good enough for now and if I like it, I'll get a real rep (LOL) from a TD. So I look at this as a cheap way to "try before you buy" to see if I actually like the look. :)

Note I do have a Clean Daytona 126500LN which I love so that is my comparison and obviously night and day difference.

Some pics.

Ok now you can give me shit.

 

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Wow! This is the kind of fake that people who knows nothing about watches would know it is fake... lol.

IMHO it is better to get a Clean or VSF and let it go in the members section if you don't like it. You would maybe take a hit but not more than 80 bucks you threw away.
 
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A working GMT with what appears to be correct hand stack for $80, it's all about the price point !! ....

Does the GMT run at 24 hrs rotation (as opposed to same speed as the time hour hand) ?

If so I'd call that a bargain at that price. It's not as good as @RepPossessed 's GMT's of which I now possess 3, due to date font and crystal, so if you want better then go for one of his at £140.
They have CHS Modded 2813 which definitely does have the correct hand stack and the GMT works as per Gen. Date and Crystal are better too ;)

To be fair to it at the price point, swap out the date wheel and call it a bargain, no real life person is gonna take a blind bit of notice, it's only us lot here that can tell the difference ;)
 

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A working GMT with what appears to be correct hand stack for $80, it's all about the price point !! ....

Does the GMT run at 24 hrs rotation (as opposed to same speed as the time hour hand) ?

If so I'd call that a bargain at that price. It's not as good as @RepPossessed 's GMT's of which I now possess 3, due to date font and crystal, so if you want better then go for one of his at £140.
They have CHS Modded 2813 which definitely does have the correct hand stack and the GMT works as per Gen. Date and Crystal are better too ;)

To be fair to it at the price point, swap out the date wheel and call it a bargain, no real life person is gonna take a blind bit of notice, it's only us lot here that can tell the difference ;)
You do realize that the rest of the watch is also shit ? Look at those crown guards. They look hungry. Engravings are a disaster. The insert looks like Fisher Price made it. The entire thing is one big disaster.
 

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Thanks to the OP for sharing this purchase. I enjoy seeing what’s being sold curbside.
What movement lurks under the case back??
 
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Look, I posted my experience as I'm sure others would be interested in what you can get from Canal St. I was, and I know others have asked, so I shared. I know it's not a $500 rep, but I still think it's fine (OK, except for the date and the bracelet). For a noob like me, I couldn't really tell that much difference when looking at gen pictures online. Obviously you experts can see much more than I can!

I don't mind spending $80 for a shitter to try. Maybe it's worth $50, but who cares. Like I said, I have a CF Daytona that is my "nice" watch :).

In the 24 hours since I've had the watch, it's kept both the local and second time zone just fine - not sure if that answers @Dave2302 's question?

@0ffcamber I also want to know, but I haven't been able to open the case back yet. Need to get a tool or ball, will post once I figure it out!
 

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I live in Little Italy and its slowly crept north up to Mulberry and the first block to Hester. Its a problem as Little Italy is still the same as it was in many ways as money has to be kicked up to that families block - its stopped moving north!

On another note I lived in HK for a few years and you could go to Shenzhen and get whatever you want from most all factories.
 

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Ok @Feefo fair enough and I will adjust and show the $80 Canal $608 Clean Factory $13,950 CDN Gen
OP's $80

Clean Factory

Gen and not a render

Still doesn't take an expert to tell there is a huge difference.
 

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Ok @Feefo fair enough and I will adjust and show the $80 Canal $608 Clean Factory $13,950 CDN Gen
OP's $80

Clean Factory

Gen and not a render

Still doesn't take an expert to tell there is a huge difference.
What a shitter the shitter was!
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Boyoboy

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Ok I opened it. I learned my lesson. But it was a fun lesson and hopefully someone else will learn from it too 😀. I reverse image searched it and it looks like a 2813 movement. So maybe a year’s worth of use? I don’t care, I like it.

I’ll post again once I get a VSF copy lol.

Thank you for the comps @asusundevils1971 !


 

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To anyone outside RWI the main difference in all three watches is the difference in price.

Yes that is either a 2813, or the CHS Modded GMT variant of the 2813, the DG3804 ;)
My question is still un answered, i.e. can the GMT Hand be adjusted and does it run at 24 hrs or 12 hrs i.e.half speed of watch hours ?

If it does work as per Gen then it is a good price for what it is.

This old thread refers ....


These watches in my pic link below are much better value for money and available from @RepPossesed fitted with the CHS Modded 2813 ....

 
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