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My 2nd PAM332 is a different color than my first. 332 owners please chime in.

kasper618

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This is basically a curiosity post here. I bought the PAM332 when first released in 2012 from Trusty. The DLC was a nice deep dark grey/black color. I had sold it off and missed her, so I reordered one from Toro this year, when the watch arrived I was very disappointed because the case was a really light grey and shiny DLC color and I was used to my previous one. The buckle is even the color of my first 332. Anyone know if H maker changed the color of the case for some reason? Has anyone ordered a 332 lately and got a lighter colored one?

Thanks paneristi.

Here is a shot of my old one:



Here is the new 2014 one:
 

mysterio

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Hard to tell from the pictures as they were taken in different lighting.
 

kasper618

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Yeah, wish I had the other one to do a side to side. I know lighting is key. But the first one, I know for sure wasn't as reflective as my current.
 

smokiedabong

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No, it should still be black.
I did receive one recently and it was black but the DLC buckle had that shiny grey color your watch has. The buckle on the rest of 332's I've owned was black. Maybe somebody messed the DLC coating on some but decided to ship them anyway.
 

smokiedabong

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Here's a comparison, 332 black, 332 grey and regular silver

Have you not received QC pics for it?




 

kasper618

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Ahh yep color comparison on those buckles depicts exactly what my old watch and new watch would look like next to one another. I did get QC photos but in the lighting it looks very black. I hope all of the new ones arent grey.
 

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DLC final colour depends on many factors of the coating process
Gen processes are strictly controlled, there is a clear specification of the standard to be followed, and you can get acceptable consistency in colours shade (there will be always some little differences even in gens)

Unfortunately we are talking about reps, without a clear standard to be followed (many times makers don’t even know the real gen colour) and without an appropriate Quality Control either in the coating process or in the final product.
You never can expect a consistency in DLC coating colours of the replicas.
Only KW and Noob seem to have lastly some uniformity in DLC colours, but it is not at all guaranteed.
Many people receiving the same rep twice, even at the same time, have realized this issue.

And all that bearing in mind that DLC colour changes a lot depending also on lighting conditions and on the finish of the surface where it is applied, not only polished, brushed or sandblasted but the degree of polishing and the grit size of brushed and sandblasted

This is the reason I don’t like doing reviews of rep DLC colours, because they are many times useless.

Besides, when you have two reps with different colours (like O.P.), how could you determining what is the most accurate?

ALE
 

smokiedabong

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That's true, but in this case it's not a little "Oopsie, I left the parts in the PVD chamber few minutes long so they have a different shade of black". This is a big time NASA-recording-over-the-moon-landing F**K up. If you take the worse gen picture available of the 332, show it to a 5 year old, he can tell you that's not right. I had a fair amount of PVD reps and while there are small variations in color, you can still look at one that was supposed to be black and say "Yes, this is black". The color on this one is not black by any stretch of imagination. I get that the process doesn't have the same quality control and may result in different shades, but I know that much, when they want to PVD something in Black, Grey, Blue, Yellow etc. it normally results in a shade of the color they intended. Somebody messed this one big time and decided to use the parts anyway, who would want to take the loss on a few hundred cases or whatever fits in their PVD chamber?