Movement dead, what to do?

[jhericurls]

I've been stupid and managed to kill the movement on the PAM 127. While having a look to see what was wrong, I did more damage and sheared off one of the flatten ratchet screws.

So what are my options?

1. Send it to the watchsmith? And hope they can fix it
2. Buy a replacement movement? How much are they and where can I buy one from?
3. Buy another PAM 127 and swap the movements over and sell left over as parts?

 

[ikiestik]

I think it all depends how much you love the watch. If you can't imagine your life without one, try the watchmaker route first. I'm sure there a few guys that can do something to get it working again at a reasonable price rather than having to buy a new one and flog the old one out for parts. If you really love it see if marlin can mod it to point of rep perfection, depending on budget.

 

[ShiroTenshi]

Not sure how u killed it, but if you need a new A6497 to replace your current, I have one on sale at the parts section.

 

[carlton]

You can try enquire with a trusted watchsmith here that is near you or locally to see whether can the watch be fixed or not. If can't then you will have to buy a new movement and send it for a movement swap plus plate swap as it is an open caseback.

You can also get your movement from here but something to take note is that he is not a trusted dealer and he can be really slow and poor in communication but he will delivered from my past experience with him.

http://www.siswatch727.com/showroom/model/T0165/templateProductDetails.do?ParentId=1240797174312004223&currentPage=1&editCurrentLanguage=1239717806671017347&webId=1239717806671017346&productId=1242292509609011170

 

[Tonyy]

Can you post a picture of the damage?

 

[jhericurls]

Thanks for the advice guys. But think it's beyond saving. The sheared screw is firmly fixed onto the bridge.

Looks like I have to bite the bullet and get another 127 as a donor. I come too far to give up, just had a lovely WSO crystal installed and new custom strap arriving next week.

 

[jeorge345]

Steel can be dissolved in alum if the part is placed in it for a couple of days - Worked a treat when a stud screw sheared in one of my PW movements and it shouldn't harm the plate materials (just be careful with the jewels).

Worth a shot!

 

[level z]

Steel can be dissolved in alum if the part is placed in it for a couple of days - Worked a treat when a stud screw sheared in one of my PW movements and it shouldn't harm the plate materials (just be careful with the jewels).

Worth a shot!

hi .. can you give more details of alum .. can it be bought off ebay ?

thx
lz

 

[jeorge345]

hi .. can you give more details of alum .. can it be bought off ebay ?

thx
lz

Yup! It's where I bought mine - look for a powder since it's more easily suspended in water. I beleive It can also be found in some grocery stores, since it's also used as a preserving agent for pickles (I think).

It works by speeding up the process of oxidisation or corrosion of iron. The alum readily attacks the iron component of the steel screw, particularly the threads; using alum to destroy a sheared steel screw is successful only when the plate material is brass, copper, bronze or other material that resists corrosion. As far as I'm aware, it does not harm nickel, platinum or rhodium plating. The process can also be sped up if the solution is heated, if you're that desparate.

Also - Just be extra cautious that there's no other servicable steel parts on the plate and if possible suspend only the area that needs treatment in the solution - It's more of a last resort than it is a commonly used solution. Another precaution is to take care not to spill any on your skin or clothes.


Hope this helps! :thumbsup:

- Jeorge

 

[marcogumbo]

Thanks for the advice guys. But think it's beyond saving. The sheared screw is firmly fixed onto the bridge.

Looks like I have to bite the bullet and get another 127 as a donor. I come too far to give up, just had a lovely WSO crystal installed and new custom strap arriving next week.

Sorry, man….that sucks after all that trouble with the crystal.
If it helps any, and you order a new Fiddy, If you can get a good crystal I would buy it from you…help some with your costs.
Also…I might put my Destro Fiddy up for sale or swap. You have anything you might want to swap?

 

[carlton]

Another option if all that is stated here seems to be too troublesome for you is to list your damage 127 for sale, recoup back a bit of money and get a new one.

 

[jeorge345]

OP, if you're UK based - I may be interested.

 

[pasiz]

With screw extractor it should be easy task. Those are found on almost any wachmaker desk