Movement A2824 slow

[Giulia93]

Hi everyone
I first purchased a Tudor Black Bay 58 from Ryan, it was a gift for my brother, the watch arrived within 1 week and he tells me that when he keeps it on his wrist it is very precise about +2 seconds during the day, but not the used it for 1 day inside and the watch lost more than 1 minute per day. it's normal? What could be the problem and the cost to fix it?
Thanks

 

[Winni1611]

Hi, many movements go slow if they are wounded only a little. So if it keeps time + 2 seconds while wearing it your fine. It can also matter in which
Position he leaves the watch. As him to try several positions ( face up/down, side) and see what the movement does.

 

[Giulia93]

Hi, many movements go slow if they are wounded only a little. So if it keeps time + 2 seconds while wearing it your fine. It can also matter in which
Position he leaves the watch. As him to try several positions ( face up/down, side) and see what the movement does.

He tells me that one of his Seiko watches loses 15 seconds a day but they remain constant, even if he leaves it to rest. while the black bay 58 left at rest with the crown raised loses almost 1 minute after a day, when worn it is very precise.

 

[Geonor]

Well the Seiko NH movements are bullet proof movements made by modern robots in sterile clean rooms. The cheap a2824s are a bit more hit or miss. They can be great and they can be a bit less great.

 

[Giulia93]

ok, so I understand that this is normal. Doesn't it need to be fixed by a watchmaker?

 

[derjenigewelcher]

ok, so I understand that this is normal. Doesn't it need to be fixed by a watchmaker?

Hello bud.

Its like this: The movement may run good regulated. But as in lot of asia movements, the jewels dont do their work very well AFAIK, so it depends in which angle you wear the watch and also how much power reserve is on the watch. so it can really run fast or slow as fuck.
Seikos are better in these terms. once regulated, they beat and beat and beat.

A analog watch for me always has been jewelery, and setting the minute hand every 3-4 days is ok for me cause i change watches anyway. if this watch is your brothers daily beater you could buy a swiss grade sellita SW200 movement and let it swap in to the watch (physically equivalent but swiss quality, costs around 100-130 bucks) and he does not has this problem anymore.

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every watchmaker and some hobbyists can swap the movement within 1-1,5 hours.

 

[Giulia93]

Hello bud.

Its like this: The movement may run good regulated. But as in lot of asia movements, the jewels dont do their work very well AFAIK, so it depends in which angle you wear the watch and also how much power reserve is on the watch. so it can really run fast or slow as fuck.
Seikos are better in these terms. once regulated, they beat and beat and beat.

A analog watch for me always has been jewelery, and setting the minute hand every 3-4 days is ok for me cause i change watches anyway. if this watch is your brothers daily beater you could buy a swiss grade sellita SW200 movement and let it swap in to the watch (physically equivalent but swiss quality, costs around 100-130 bucks) and he does not has this problem anymore.

Original SW200-1 Automatic Mechanical Movement Replacement of ETA 2824-2 | eBay

Original SW200-1 Automatic Mechanical Movement Replacement of ETA 2824-2 | Jewelry & Watches, Watches, Parts & Accessories, Parts, Tools & Guides | eBay!

www.ebay.ch

every watchmaker and some hobbyists can swap the movement within 1-1,5 hours.

thanks so much for the explanation

 

[Giulia93]

Hello bud.

Its like this: The movement may run good regulated. But as in lot of asia movements, the jewels dont do their work very well AFAIK, so it depends in which angle you wear the watch and also how much power reserve is on the watch. so it can really run fast or slow as fuck.
Seikos are better in these terms. once regulated, they beat and beat and beat.

A analog watch for me always has been jewelery, and setting the minute hand every 3-4 days is ok for me cause i change watches anyway. if this watch is your brothers daily beater you could buy a swiss grade sellita SW200 movement and let it swap in to the watch (physically equivalent but swiss quality, costs around 100-130 bucks) and he does not has this problem anymore.

Original SW200-1 Automatic Mechanical Movement Replacement of ETA 2824-2 | eBay

Original SW200-1 Automatic Mechanical Movement Replacement of ETA 2824-2 | Jewelry & Watches, Watches, Parts & Accessories, Parts, Tools & Guides | eBay!

www.ebay.ch

every watchmaker and some hobbyists can swap the movement within 1-1,5 hours.

if it stays like this it's fine for him, as long as this isn't a symptom that it will stop working in the next few months?

 

[derjenigewelcher]

if it stays like this it's fine for him, as long as this isn't a symptom that it will stop working in the next few months?

No, its a symptom that it is a asia copy of swiss movement It works stable, very good clone, but finishing, tolerances, etc. are not as 100% as swiss grade movements.
He can let it regulate at a watchmaker for small money, a professional regulates in all directions (watch dial upwards, sidewards, downside etc) and will acchieve a much better result for sure. maybe i would recommend this as a step between putting a new swiss movement inside.
Hope I have helped and your brother can wear the watch in good health.

 

[derjenigewelcher]

I just guess on your name, are you based in italy? there is a forum watchmaker here that does movement swaps, regulation, basicly everything. has some waiting time, but its worth it.

 

[Giulia93]

I just guess on your name, are you based in italy? there is a forum watchmaker here that does movement swaps, regulation, basicly everything. has some waiting time, but its worth it.

Exactly, I live in Italy. Can you tell me the name of this watchmaker you're telling me about. Thanks again

 

[derjenigewelcher]

Exactly, I live in Italy. Can you tell me the name of this watchmaker you're telling me about. Thanks again

Here in the forum he is known as @Nikz19

It would be best to contact him via his website i guess:

The Time Garage – We value your time

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