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modded pam pics next to my genuine.

flavor flav

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it really helps having the genuines here for examples when doing these mods! i just finished this 177 and 111 with my custom lume mix dubbed "c2" the mixe is a match to the genuine color.. not pure c3as many believe but a mix of c1 and c3. also this customer requested i change the font color on the dial from the bright white to the off white as on the gen.. some use the "smoke" method but i don't smoke so i soak them in a tank of a mixed instant coffee (super thick 3 parts mix/1 part water) and a small amount of iodine. i soak for 2 days then rinse and dry. the effect is the font is evenly and lightly stained to a color much closer to the genuine. tones down the bright white fonts! i also did a cannon upgrade and i fixed the loose CG levers (best bang for the buck to make a pam rep more believable) the CG levers on reps are loose and floppy.. my modification makes them tight and move with some resistance exactly like the genuine lever. and finally! as a gift for sending me three watches at once for mods, i added a spare swanneck regulator i had to the basic asian movement on his fiddy! not fully functional but looks much better than no swanneck! the fiddy was done with the same lume mix and the cannon and lever were modded too.

i wanted to share the comparison pics with the forum.

my gen 111i is the center of the pic.


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and the fiddy!
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Sylar

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Great results. Now I know who to send my 111 and 177 if time permits you.
 

007

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Nice to see some of the RWG regulars on this great board of ours. Even better to see top notch moders posting over here...

I always suspected C3 isn't 100% right. So it's a custom mix, eh?
 

flavor flav

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007 said:
Nice to see some of the RWG regulars on this great board of ours. Even better to see top notch moders posting over here...

I always suspected C3 isn't 100% right. So it's a custom mix, eh?

definately a mix!! i used 80% c1!! only 20% c3 and it's near exact match. nice to be here. it's darker here LOL!
 

ssalxpanerai

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Could you tell exactly how thick for the crown of 111i?
Are the other 2 reps from DVN?
 

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FF, is it just the exposure of the pics or is the L SWISS MADE L very close to the 6 on your 111i? How does the font spacing compare to the rep? The mods look great by the way.

Oh, and I can attest to the benifit to be gained from the crown guard lever mod flav offers. I have a watch with the fix and it makes a substantial difference in its overall feel.


Grreat stuff!
 

flavor flav

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ssalxpanerai said:
Could you tell exactly how thick for the crown of 111i?
Are the other 2 reps from DVN?

1.91mm thick on the gen. just measured it for you. i'm not sure who the reps are from they are not mine. i only did the work.
 

flavor flav

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justaguy88 said:
FF, is it just the exposure of the pics or is the L SWISS MADE L very close to the 6 on your 111i? How does the font spacing compare to the rep? The mods look great by the way.

Oh, and I can attest to the benifit to be gained from the crown guard lever mod flav offers. I have a watch with the fix and it makes a substantial difference in its overall feel.


Grreat stuff!

the l swiss l on the gen sits in the same spot in the center but is a much smaller font. the dial fonts are not the same. the "2" in the "12" is different on the gen too. and yes.. the CG mod is gold!
 

dtan888

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Another great addition modder... I heard your name and your work alot even in here.. That is a Very Nice custom work.
Welcome to darker room.... :)

Dan
 

flavor flav

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dtan888 said:
Another great addition modder... I heard your name and your work alot even in here.. That is a Very Nice custom work.
Welcome to darker room.... :)

Dan

thanks for the kind words :D
 

ssalxpanerai

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flavor flav said:
ssalxpanerai said:
Could you tell exactly how thick for the crown of 111i?
Are the other 2 reps from DVN?

1.91mm thick on the gen. just measured it for you. i'm not sure who the reps are from they are not mine. i only did the work.

Thank you so much FF for the thickness of crown. It is really not that thick as I understand before. May be the matching of crown and CG and the radius profile of CG make it look thicker than it is.

Thank you so much and I very much enjoy your work. Well done!!
 

007

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My Palp crown looks thicker then that :roll: ... I thought he made it right.
Or could it just be my polished CG making it look that much thicker?
 

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Your works are really stunning! It looks wonderful to me :shock: :D :D
 

kruzer00

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Absolutely beautiful work. But I would expect no less from Flav.

In truth many of our rep crowns are plenty good enough. And remember that although the size remains the same the bevel changes from year to year and model to model. It is all about the CG. Most rep CG's have way to big a hole which makes the crowns look smaller. Put a Palp crown in a Jimmy CG (I did) and it looks totally wrong - awesome but totally wrong. Also I look at Flav's crown and compare to the 5218 gen crowns I have and the 5218's have a much more severe bevel and look substantially smaller. Ever wonder how the gen CG's can have less room and still allow for better functionality for the winding and setting features? The answer is that the gen has the base of the crown far more recessed. I do have to say that I am loving the bevel on this I series (H too) crowns. :D
 

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don't know much about PAM yet but.....

god damn! that looks good! flavorflav!!! :shock:

good to have a veterans like you on the forum! welcome~~~ :D

luv your avatar too~ :lol:
 

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007, the Palp crowns are 2.0mm, right? So maybe not exact, but certainly in the ballpark. DSN's crowns are also 2mm thick, IIRC. The problem with DSN's crown is that the edges are too beveled, DSN's are like 45 degrees and they need to be more like 30 degrees. Less bevel on the edges give you a larger flat area on the teeth and makes the crown appear wider...

:wink:

Almost forgot, OUTSTANDING work Flav!

Are you US based?
 

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hooligan said:
007, the Palp crowns are 2.0mm, right? So maybe not exact, but certainly in the ballpark. DSN's crowns are also 2mm thick, IIRC. The problem with DSN's crown is that the edges are too beveled, DSN's are like 45 degrees and they need to be more like 30 degrees. Less bevel on the edges give you a larger flat area on the teeth and makes the crown appear wider...

:wink:

Almost forgot, OUTSTANDING work Flav!

Are you US based?

Palp crowns are 2.1mm
 

hooligan

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Hmmmm, I see. I thought *one* of his runs was 2.1 and then the others were 2.0 and people were saying the 2.0mm ones were closer to gen. Oh, well, this isn't the first time today I've been wrong. :wink: