Looking to source older PAM 44mm GMT and/or Chrono

[dave9522]

Hey all, many thanks for hosting this PAM subforum, I learned a bunch from the many reviews and guides. I'm going to guess that this question has been asked before, but does anyone know a source for ANY of the older 44mm PAM GMTs and/or Chronos? I've found several TDs and non-TDS that show them as available but OOS after contacting them or attempting to buy. I'm interested in several models; 088, 029, 297, 161 for the GMTs, and 162, 196, 308, and 250 for the Chronos. Really any variants similar to these models would probably interest me. Is m2m the only way to go for these models?

Thank you for any help

 

[mysterio]

Nobody knows any source. If they had, then you would see those models popping up on M2M. No TD (that I know) has a completely updated website, especially ones that were posted years ago. Most if not all of those models are no longer available (or were never available as a decent enough rep). M2M is the only way for now.

 

[dave9522]

Nobody knows any source. If they had, then you would see those models popping up on M2M. No TD (that I know) has a completely updated website, especially ones that were posted years ago. Most if not all of those models are no longer available (or were never available as a decent enough rep). M2M is the only way for now.

Gotchya. I'm fairly new to this but was wondering why I was getting similar replies from a lot of TDs. Do you happen to know if it's all of these older models being OOS or just a subset?

 

[mysterio]

Gotchya. I'm fairly new to this but was wondering why I was getting similar replies from a lot of TDs. Do you happen to know if it's all of these older models being OOS or just a subset?

All TDs go to the factories to ask for availability, unless they bought a bunch in advance and weren't able to sell them before, which can happen but unlikely.
There were only 3 factories before who made most of the PAM reps, H-Factory, Noob Factory and Davidsen.
H-factory - no more, factory was permanently shut down
Noob factory - largely no more, factory focused on Rolex. Only PAM005, 111 and 127 are still in production. Noob currently on indefinite time off
Davidsen - He's still around but you have to ask him for availability.

 

[dave9522]

All TDs go to the factories to ask for availability, unless they bought a bunch in advance and weren't able to sell them before, which can happen but unlikely.
There were only 3 factories before who made most of the PAM reps, H-Factory, Noob Factory and Davidsen.
H-factory - no more, factory was permanently shut down
Noob factory - largely no more, factory focused on Rolex. Only PAM005, 111 and 127 are still in production. Noob currently on indefinite time off
Davidsen - He's still around but you have to ask him for availability.

Thanks so much for the info. I shot Davidsen an email, hopefully there's something available.

 

[dave9522]

Having no luck whatsoever in finding any. Anyone looking to get rid of theirs? I'd be more than happy to buy above MSRP.

 

[mysterio]

Having no luck whatsoever in finding any. Anyone looking to get rid of theirs? I'd be more than happy to buy above MSRP.

Post in the Wanted section. People don't scour discussion sections looking for others who might be interested to buy something they have.