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Looking to buy my first rep pam569
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Hi Redtop, after my personal experience, do not go for KW versions with ST2555 movement. The A7750 will do it. According to discussion of my TD with KW, all their ST 2555 (low beat) have a problem with the small second - stuttering. Besides of that, its a great looking watch [emoji106]
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Fuu, i dont think so... the caseback is solid and from the front, you can see nothing from the movement... There is maybe one point - if the small second moves smoothly, its a good sign. Second one could be silent rotor, as from what i have read, the ST rotor is quite noisy (and i can confirm it from my 569). So listen to the rotor. Hope this helps. But anyhow, you will enjoy the watch!
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Rotor noise is not a real basis for determination of the movement used. 7750 and Seagull can both be as noisy, or as quiet. 
If the small second movement is smooth, it probably is an A7750. If it's not however, you can't be sure. Although the ST2555 is a 21.6K bph movement, the A7750 has two variants, one at 21.6K bph and another at 28.8K bph. So it could be either. Plus second hand sweep is harder to tell on a subdial than on a central seconds hand.
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The best rep of PAM 569 is KW-V6Fac
Regarding movement there are a lot a of discrepancies lastly
Seagull looks more accurate due to the position of BW @6 . Closer to @7 like gen. A7750 has BW @11
In relation to the noise both are almost the same is a matter of luck
Seagull is cheaper
Seagull and and A7750 without chrono function have more or less the same reliability
There is lastly a polemic matter regarding stuttering second hand on Seagull. This is a matter of luck, obviously with a 21600 bph movement you will have more possibilities of getting a stuttering hand and the necessary devices to get the second hand in a Seagull movement are more critical than in A7750. That said it is clear that you will get a stuttering hand much easier with a Seagull than with an A7750.
But usually and with a correct Seagull, to realize the stuttering is an almost impossible thing.
I had to open the caseback of my KW PAM 569 fitted with Seagull to assure it was a Seagull. It was impossible even with a loupe to see the stuttering hand.
Maybe the most correct decision would be:
If you are A7750 lover go to it
If you like the Seagull and the lower price go to it
ALE
Regarding movement there are a lot a of discrepancies lastly
Seagull looks more accurate due to the position of BW @6 . Closer to @7 like gen. A7750 has BW @11
In relation to the noise both are almost the same is a matter of luck
Seagull is cheaper
Seagull and and A7750 without chrono function have more or less the same reliability
There is lastly a polemic matter regarding stuttering second hand on Seagull. This is a matter of luck, obviously with a 21600 bph movement you will have more possibilities of getting a stuttering hand and the necessary devices to get the second hand in a Seagull movement are more critical than in A7750. That said it is clear that you will get a stuttering hand much easier with a Seagull than with an A7750.
But usually and with a correct Seagull, to realize the stuttering is an almost impossible thing.
I had to open the caseback of my KW PAM 569 fitted with Seagull to assure it was a Seagull. It was impossible even with a loupe to see the stuttering hand.
Maybe the most correct decision would be:
If you are A7750 lover go to it
If you like the Seagull and the lower price go to it
ALE