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Looking for a Rose Gold Super Rep.

arielxl

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I am looking for a rose gold super rep Panerai, because somehow all the super reps suggested are steel, ti or dlc. Is there any super rep for rose gold model? Thank you.
 

hab3z

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I am looking for a rose gold super rep Panerai, because somehow all the super reps suggested are steel, ti or dlc. Is there any super rep for rose gold model? Thank you.

I'm actually going to review the pam 511 soon. I have the older version in hand and will be comparing it to the new ZF version where the movement will be in the correct place.

I'm doing it mainly because I have concerns about the actual colour of the rose gold. The older one which has already arrived is a very beautiful rose gold. You can really see the reddish/pink hue of the gold. So i'm waiting for the new ZF version to arrive and I will compare it side by side with pictures.

I guess the main problem with rose gold reps as far as I understand is that if you use it heavily, the rose gold plating might eventually rub off and you will have to re-plate the rep.

But i'm still very much learning myself. haha. Do let me know if you come across better information about a "super rep" rose gold pam.

Cheers!
 

arielxl

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I'm actually going to review the pam 511 soon. I have the older version in hand and will be comparing it to the new ZF version where the movement will be in the correct place.

I'm doing it mainly because I have concerns about the actual colour of the rose gold. The older one which has already arrived is a very beautiful rose gold. You can really see the reddish/pink hue of the gold. So i'm waiting for the new ZF version to arrive and I will compare it side by side with pictures.

I guess the main problem with rose gold reps as far as I understand is that if you use it heavily, the rose gold plating might eventually rub off and you will have to re-plate the rep.

But i'm still very much learning myself. haha. Do let me know if you come across better information about a "super rep" rose gold pam.

Cheers!

Thank you for your reply, will definitely check it out. Because the new rose gold Pams which I like have not been reviewed by the great @Ale.
 

snowykim

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Panerai rose gold is no way close to pinky/reddish one found in other brands. I have a gen 231 and it is in between yellow and rose but more to the regular gold color. Rep rose color is completely wrong.
 

ALE7575

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Panerai rose gold is no way close to pinky/reddish one found in other brands. I have a gen 231 and it is in between yellow and rose but more to the regular gold color. Rep rose color is completely wrong.

Sorry to say you are somehow wrong
The PAM 231 you are talking about is really "regular gold colour" as you say, but this is due to the chemical composition of the gold which has few amount of copper
But the new RED Gold PAMs 8 days like PAM 5111 are made of an alloy with a lot of copper and look really RED gold. To get anticorrosive properties lost by the great amount of copper Panerai adds to the alloy an amoumt of Platinum that give to the metal alloy a special shine and anticorrosive properties. The look of the gen watches with such alloy is really awesome
Unfortunately the reps cannot get this kind of alloy for the golden coating and will not have the shine and the anticorrosive properties of the gen. You will need to keep the rep watch really clean and wearing it carefully to not get loss of shine by the scratches.
Leaving aside the shine, the colour and appearance of the PAM 5111 and similar reps is good enough

ALE
 

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Ale is spot on right. I got one just to see how it looked. It's not bad but it's not that versatile of a look IMO. Anyway, best of luck!
 

arielxl

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Sorry to say you are somehow wrong
The PAM 231 you are talking about is really "regular gold colour" as you say, but this is due to the chemical composition of the gold which has few amount of copper
But the new RED Gold PAMs 8 days like PAM 5111 are made of an alloy with a lot of copper and look really RED gold. To get anticorrosive properties lost by the great amount of copper Panerai adds to the alloy an amoumt of Platinum that give to the metal alloy a special shine and anticorrosive properties. The look of the gen watches with such alloy is really awesome
Unfortunately the reps cannot get this kind of alloy for the golden coating and will not have the shine and the anticorrosive properties of the gen. You will need to keep the rep watch really clean and wearing it carefully to not get loss of shine by the scratches.
Leaving aside the shine, the colour and appearance of the PAM 5111 and similar reps is good enough

ALE

So what are the super reps in Rose Gold? [emoji5]
 

arielxl

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Ale is spot on right. I got one just to see how it looked. It's not bad but it's not that versatile of a look IMO. Anyway, best of luck!

Beautiful! Congrats. Thanks [emoji120]
 

ALE7575

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So what are the super reps in Rose Gold? [emoji5]

No possible red gold super reps due to different material ans WEIGHT !! Gold is really heavier than SS gold coated
A coated SS will never be like a real gold material, mainly after some months of wearing it

ALE
 

arielxl

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No possible red gold super reps due to different material ans WEIGHT !! Gold is really heavier than SS gold coated
A coated SS will never be like a real gold material, mainly after some months of wearing it

ALE

If you forget the weight, any good PAM rep cosmetically? [emoji5]
 

hab3z

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If you forget the weight, any good PAM rep cosmetically? [emoji5]

First a disclaimer: I'm no Pam expert. Lol

But from what i understand so far from everything I've read, for a Rep to get "Super Rep" status, the watch you're talking about needs to be REALLY similar to the gen. And we're talking about millimetres here. Obviously, this also includes the case back which is why a lot of reps with display case backs don't make it to super rep status because it's just all that hard to mimic a movement (especially an in-house movement) properly.

That said- I guess the case back only really counts (in my eyes) if you plan on taking off your watch and showing it to everyone who asks. Lol! Or if you intend to take pictures/videos of the back of your watch and posting it on instagram or something (teehee).

That's why for me personally, when i read ALE's guide, I read up on why something doesn't achieve super rep status and if it's mainly because of the case back, then more often than not i'm ok with letting it slide. Because HONESTLY, who in their right mind (except for all the crazy super talented people in this forum) would remember where the balance wheel on a particular model would be in relation to the 12 o'clock mark. hahahaha.

So, in conclusion- It all boils down to what you are willing to accept in a rep. Is there a rose gold rep that meets this RWI's standard of a "Super Rep"? Probably not. But can you possibly find a nice rose gold rep that is gorgeous, and that 90% of people can't tell the difference anyway? I'd bet on a resounding yes. :)