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KW 532 short review [PICS HEAVY]

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Radiomir 1940 3 Days Paneristi Forever PAM 532 KW



Model: PAM 532
Maker: KW maker
Movement: a6497 21,600 vph
Dealer: Hont



I must admit, I was not aware that Panerai had released a new special edition for Paneristi until I saw that Kuvarsit was releasing the rep.
Since I have a growing collateral addiction for vintage PAM models, I was delighted to see a 1940 DLC'ed case with black dial and vintage lumed indices. The combo is simply perfect to me because it makes this watch modern and vintage at the same time.
On to another short review then :)

THE GEN





(errr... what is this guy doing with a plastic knife???) ;)


The 532 was released in 2013 as a limited special edition of 500 pieces dedicated to the Paneristi community.
The watch features a DLC'ed case, very similar in color to the 360, black dial and black hand both vintage lumed. On the bottom of the dial there's an embossed reproduction of the S.L.C. (Sottomarino a Lenta Corsa) invented by Teseo Tesei and nicknamed "Maiale" (pig) by him.
The 1940 case is inspired to the transitional model between the Radiomir (3646) and the Luminor (6152/1) cases, as a matter of fact this case is pretty much the same as the reference 6154 from the 40's. The crown is a screw-in type recalling the shape of the Rolex crowns used at that time.
Imho Panerai did a good job modernizing an old styled watch while adding so many details that refer to the history of the brand.
The contrast with the dark grey DLC'ed case and the strong orange of the numbers and indices makes for a stunning look of this piece, indeed one with a clear personality.
The movement is the inhouse manual wind Cal. P.3000, hidden by a closed SS caseback, that features a huge PANERISTI FOREVER engraving. A strong statement of appreciation for its online community from Panerai.

THE REP



The rep does look great as it is, even with its inaccuracies. Since these are flaws that can be addressed (I don't know how easily though), possibly a v2 will fix them.

CASE





First thing you notice wearing this watch is how thin it looks. The 1940 case with its 47 mm size is a big watch, but the lack of a CG and the flat crystal make it very comfortable on the wrist, the thin profile gives an elegant touch to the design.
Case shape is very close to gen from what I can see, no evident flaws at least.
THe DLC is clearly darker than gen, but it feels solid and good quality, even though not at the same level of my 504 which has a finer "grain" of the steel under the coating.



Instead of the usual system based on screw bars, Panerai opted for standard pins on this watch, a choice that I think linked to what was used in vintage models. Obviously the rep uses the same system.

CROWN



The screw-in crown is well replicated in shape, vaguely recalling the vintage Rolex crowns used in 6154 models. It does not screw in completely, like gen, though maybe it goes a bit closer to the case, a very discussed choice from Panerai explained stating that screwing the crown completely in could damage the coating of the case.
Near the crown there's a nick in the case, meant to host the fully screwn in crown. As ALE promptly noticed and reviewed HERE, the shape of the nick is a bit less defined than in gen.





Crown shape is close, but not exactly as gen, OP logo is well defined. You can refer to ALE's thread for in depth analisys :)

DIAL



The black sandwich dial features vintage lumed numerals and indices and seconds subdial at 9. The cuts are sharp, as in almost every PAM rep I saw, and numbers are shaped correctly.
The color of the vintage lume though is noticeably lighter than the strong orange of the gen.
Hour and minutes hands are black while seconds hand is white. A nice touch that matches the RADIOMIR PANERAI inscription in the upper side. Printing is pretty well defined.
The CP is clearly wider than gen. It is flush, flat and polished though ;)



The embossed SLC is well executed, it's defined and very close to the gen shape as far as I can tell.




LUME



CRYSTAL



The almost flat crystal is clear and does not sit too high on the bezel.
AR is possibly the worst I saw so far in a PAM, it' s almost impossible to avoid reflections on the dial in the pics :(
A slightly purplish tone can be seen in certain light conditions, so at least you can be sure it is there :)



CASEBACK



Caseback is closed, thus eliminating any possible problem regarding the replication of the movement. This rep features the mighty a6497, on of the most inexpensive and reliable movements found in reps.
The engravings are very nice, PANERISTI FOREVER is pretty much like gen and other inscriptions are well defined and correct as well. As PolonusTM noticed HERE, the engravings in the centre of the dial are slightly tilted in respect to the outer engravings.
Not very noticeable indeed, and if he didn't notice it I would not even be aware of this issue, anyway another lack of care from the maker.

CONCLUSIONS



This rep looks exceptionally to detail it nice to me, but it leaves a sour taste in my mouth because with a very little more attention it could have easily been a super rep and a must have in any PAM collection. I think its' even more disappointing that this lack comes from KW, a maker that has an history of impressive attention to detail.
As it is, it's still a great looking rep and a watch I advise to anyone. The build is solid, the feel is nice, the look is good! :)

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As usual I'm glad to hear your opinions and please do correct me if I said something wrong, I'm always happy to update the review :)

:cheers:
 

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Thanks Kilo
This is a nice Review with fantastic pics
Besides it is timely because I'm now preparing the data of PAM 532 to include it in PAM GUIDE

Regarding your comment:
"This rep looks exceptionally to detail it nice to me, but it leaves a sour taste in my mouth because with a very little more attention it could have easily been a super rep and a must have in any PAM collection. I think its' even more disappointing that this lack comes from KW, a maker that has an history of impressive attention to detail."
I agree with you completely, makers are nowadays pressed by the competition and neglect some little details, which would be easily amendable with a little more of care for the detail as KW usually does (did?)

I will include this link in PAM GUIDE asap, when I introduce the PAM 532

REP points added

Really useful
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Thanks for the review kilo, and indeed it is very useful for members who want to get this kw pam.
 

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Mate, as always, great review and pics. Always a joy to read these.
The oversized cp on the rep bothers me, but what really kills this watch for me is the inaccurate lume color on the rep. The numeral color on the gen is clearly more orange. As you mentioned kilo, such small details overlooked by kw really prevents this from being the super rep it could be.
i love the strap you have on this as well.
 

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My apologies guys, as I woke up this morning I noticed a part of the review was missing due to an error in the code.
It is now fixed and fully readable, sorry for the confusion :)

Thanks Kilo
This is a nice Review with fantastic pics
Besides it is timely because I'm now preparing the data of PAM 532 to include it in PAM GUIDE

Regarding your comment:
"This rep looks exceptionally to detail it nice to me, but it leaves a sour taste in my mouth because with a very little more attention it could have easily been a super rep and a must have in any PAM collection. I think its' even more disappointing that this lack comes from KW, a maker that has an history of impressive attention to detail."
I agree with you completely, makers are nowadays pressed by the competition and neglect some little details, which would be easily amendable with a little more of care for the detail as KW usually does (did?)

I will include this link in PAM GUIDE asap, when I introduce the PAM 532

REP points added

Really useful
ALE

ALE, I'm glad I decided to finish this one instead of the other review I'm working on then!
Thanks for the rep points :)

What details exactly does this rep fall short?

Well, it's all in the review, anyway case color, indices color and CP are the main let down imho.

Thanks for the review kilo, and indeed it is very useful for members who want to get this kw pam.

Thanks :)

Mate, as always, great review and pics. Always a joy to read these.
The oversized cp on the rep bothers me, but what really kills this watch for me is the inaccurate lume color on the rep. The numeral color on the gen is clearly more orange. As you mentioned kilo, such small details overlooked by kw really prevents this from being the super rep it could be.
i love the strap you have on this as well.

Thanks vbmrk, I think KW reputation is not at stake, but in their recent releases I noticed less care for details, which was one of their points of strenght.
Btw the strap is an Orloff :)
 

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CP is really a bit oversized but numeral color is very gen like IMO
 

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CP is really a bit oversized but numeral color is very gen like IMO

I think no
The gen has orange lume whereas rep is clearly ecru without any orange huge
See below a pic comparing lume colour of gen PAM 532 and PAM 360 where you can see that PAM 532 lume is even more coloured than PAM 360 and with a clear orange hue

PAM532-PAM360LUMECOMPARISONcopiar_zpse1afe4ec.jpg


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The fact, I think, is that they tried to replicate (!) the color of aged tritium lumed dials.
The gen pics I saw show a deep orange, while the rep has only a hint of this.
I'm wondering if rep could be relumed in darker color?
 

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here are the gen 532 pics
http://forum.watch.ru/showthread.php?t=235970
i cant see any deep orange color of lume,my rep digits have almost the same color

Interesting pics, lume seems indeed lighter and more similar to the rep.
Of course I have no gen in hand to compare, so I can't be positive on my impression, but the large majority of the pics I saw of the gen show orange indices, just like the one I posted above. Obviously it can be a matter of different lighting, but in no way I could shot a pic of my rep with such deep orange.
Maybe someone who has seen the gen in person might chime in and clear the doubts :)
 

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... good pics and a fine Review, thx for taking the time.

Hope there will be another maker release this 532 with a better case finish and Color.. The macro pics clearly Show a rough surface whereas the gen is silky smooth ... and this is the reason why the black coating Looks matte black on KW and silky smooth black, dark pencillead on the gen.

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In respect of the lume guys...


one thing you should understand is OP use the same panatone on all thier 'vintage' lumed models.... they are all 'Old Radium'.... the Risti guys call it 'ecru' lume....

I know I will get bombarded with look at this colour lume in this pic compared to this pic.... I was the same at first... and I did a lot of research on it as it bothered me... I can tell you unequivocally that regardless of what the pics might suggest the lume is the same across the range allowing for batch variations...as OP has this custom mixed by RCTritec (Its not available on the standard RCT range of powder)

Believe it or not all you are seeing is variations in the pics...lighting etcetc....

There are some other slight variations that effect the look of this lume too... for example a sandwich to a sausage because of the depth of lume under the top plate and another variation is that on some dials OP prepare the markers to be lumed (Sandwich) with a prepaint of white... this gives the lume a brighter whiter look to the lume sitting on it... it varies from model to model on that preparation method and tone if applied of the base coat under the lume..

I knwo some of you will still not believe this from pics... but all I can say is I have it on very good authority about the panatone and application method plus if you get the chance to see them in your hand you will see the variations are more in the trick of the pic image rather than the actually look...

I had originally thought myself that was the case and that these 532s had a 'burnt radium' lume ... similar to say the non-matching dials you get in the 201a and 202a dials from the early PreV batches when the non-matching dial anomaly occurred .... these are the only dials with the 'non-matching' dials in PAM terms.... no other dials can be 'non-matching' in this defined or accepted sense..but that another PreV history ;)

Anyhoo that werent the case.... OP use a single panatone across all vintage lumed models (batch variation accepted)


As an aside the ZF has the gen of this nad is producing a rep of it over last few weeks along with several other PAMs that the ZF and V6 maker have bought gens of to reproduce... All soon to come to our greasy mitts !! :)
 

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Thanks Pete, I know from my reading you know what you're talking about and consider your opinion valuable.

I agree with you the exact color cannot be judged by pics because of different light conditions in almost every pic you see, and I understand OP using the same pantone colored lume for every "vintage lumed" watch they produce (it makes perfect sense cost-wise), but you will agree that the large majority of pics available online show a color that's comparable to the non-matching pre-V models you mention.
As much as I tried I could not achieve the same color on pics with my 532, despite different lights and even post-processing effects (excluding changing the color of indices of course), that led me to believe that lume on this KW is lighter than gen indeed.

Of course, if you had a gen in your hands and can confirm that lume color is instead ecru all my thoughts are wrong, and we have a far more accurate rep than I thought :D



BTW nice to know Zfac is on this one as well, while I can't make my mind up why both factory keep repping the same models, this is a very nice watch and deserves an even better version :)
 

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Thanks Pete and Kilo for your comments and explanations
We will continue getting info about this polemic matter

ALE

BTW: Pete, Nice to see you here again