icard2: Time and time again we have recommended to stick it out no matter what with OUR TDs here in THIS forum. Sorry, but if you were mugged in New York city, you cant complain to the New Jersey police dept. ............... stay with our TDs here, no matter how good looking the other stuff is with other dealers. I feel for you my friend, but what can we do ?? ............ Trust is earned in this forum. And the TD filtering here is top notch. .......... best regards.
I beleive that if you had researched the TF Cartier Diver, you would have learned that the inverted dates was a known flaw with this model. All TD's get the same miyota based TF Cartier Diver, and all have the inverted dates. Trust the information shared here on RWI by members, as we are much more picky and precise than most of the TD's.
I beleive you could have averted this whole fiasco by reading up on the model before purchasing. As much as you wish to point a finger at the TD (poor customer service and misleading information is never OK), you share some of the responsibility.
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SUMIKITO has suggested, only use RWI TD's, and only buy after you are clear of the known flaws and issues for a specific piece.
CHeers
Yes mate, I DID study it until I couldn't study it anymore, so I was surprised this model actually had the correct DW AND the ZF/TF quality to it! (I know there are othe correct DW with crappy quality dials/case/decoration etc) but this one was somehow correct in all, thats why I asked and insisted and received very bad customer service and then I posted online and got flamed.
Most dealers (including the TDs on this forum) would rather give you other options than refunding you. It's just the nature of the business, unless you paid with credit card. It's quite a hassle for them to send money back (unless you paid with CC), so if you'd accept another watch, they'll gladly take that over giving you your money back.
Also, it's true that you're buying a rep. It will have flaws, that's the nature of the business. The dealers have no control over what watches get sent to them so if they get 5 bad watches, they'll try to give you the best one out of the 5 (QC on their side). Ultimately, they gave you the refund so that's all that matters. They would only sketchy if they refused to refund and only offered to replace the watch.
Yes my friend, but maybe I didn't emphasise my main point here, its like you bought a TC submariner for $650 and it read "RALEX" instead of "ROLEX", or it had a yellow second hand or a badly scratched sapphire crystal or a plastic bracelet instead of SS (Im making a REDUCTIO AD ABSURDUM example here for emphasis and making my point crystal clear) would you gladly accept it just because "well, we are buying reps after all" when there are clearly flaws that are simply unacceptable?
this was my point, it would have been easier if they had been straight up and told me the DW WAS STILL INVERTED in their version and not had me go to the paying proceess and when I received QC pics -sure enough with the anticipated DW flaw- they then try to convince me to buy the flawed rep anyways when from the first place I was trying to avoid precisely that very flaw , and how did I try to avoid this? by noticing their flawed pics, calling them on that (despite the description that said it had the correct one) and asking for pictures and they refusing to send until I pay. If you see the whole process was a waste of time and as Poker players do I had to "pay to see flops" and I saw what I suspected. So live and learn!
Last reductio ad absurdum example:
You go online to buy a BK Sub C 116610, you know theres a known super flaw and instant tell, theres a batch of these reps with a ROLEX logo painted in pink color. So you find this TD dealer that in the description for this model you like it says it has the correct color, you look at their pictures and you notice on the picture the rolex logo is STILL pink despite what you read on the description that says "correct logo color".
So You ask the TD to send you pictures that show proof they have the correct color instead of pink, they say they don't have pictures but somehow IF you pay, you will get CORRECT pictures and a correct watch eventually, you get angry and post this online, and you get flamed and people tell you "its a rep after fall so don't whine"
Ok so you think you're overthinking and you trust the process, you pay the TD, and sure enough you receive the QCs with the pink wrong colors, you call the TD on that and they try to convince you "you are after all buying reps so get this one and stop whining" you post your experience online and you get flamed. See my point? its not like you bought a rep and it had a slightly misaligned indice or numeral, etc.
Best regards to all.
