guys, are they good ?? high end quality ..like the price speak??
anyone like it ?? I like it because its bold...
anyone like it ?? I like it because its bold...
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I feel they used to be great watches when they first came out, but the price has risen so dramatically because of poularity, I just don't think they are worth the 3-4K USD that they command. But very nice watches overall.
Eddy
Eddy
The watch I think pretty nice..but obviously the price.....is the mafioso's deal..by tony sopranos...hidden finger...LOL
rolex prolly cost nothing when first
introduced
meaning?
buy at yer own peril...
meaning....
if yu like it and have the money
why no buy?
LOL
K
introduced
meaning?
buy at yer own peril...
meaning....
if yu like it and have the money
why no buy?
LOL
K
Strange brand.....
I was aked to do the straps for them but I only make strap with my company's names on it not theirs so the deal went south....
The watches are Fugly...and when you see the price $3-4k.....made in Germany......I just don't see it.
E
I was aked to do the straps for them but I only make strap with my company's names on it not theirs so the deal went south....
The watches are Fugly...and when you see the price $3-4k.....made in Germany......I just don't see it.
E
Interesting poster ad . . .
http://koboldwatch.com/products/merch.htm
at the bottom of the page.
Maybe he doesn't like their prices either . . . .
B
http://koboldwatch.com/products/merch.htm
at the bottom of the page.
Maybe he doesn't like their prices either . . . .
B
Kobold- Hmmm... I know a little about Kobolds. One of the cool things about watches and the people who collect them is that, thank God, they are not all the same. I like Kobolds, you may not. So for for me, the Kobolds I own are some of my favorite watches and were worth every penny (all though I do agree that there are certainly better watches for the value). I guess for me it is more than just the watch VS price. Here is a little something I wrote in response to this post http://www.rwg.cc/members/index.php?sho ... &hl=kobold over at RWG
QUOTE(longshot @ Apr 18 2006, 02:06 PM) *
Michael Kobold is a spoiled rich kid whose father (a wealthy German industrialist, see Kobold Instruments) gave him a few million dollars to start a watch compeny....
Well, here we see how internet rumors are perpetuated. I am admittedly not what one would considered unbiased in my opinion (I own four Kobolds) but I do speak with a little bit of reliable authority as I have known Mike Kobold since he started his "little watch Co." For starters, he is as gracious as any person I have met and his father did not give him "a few million dollars to start a watch company". His father actually was against the idea initially. Also, it is Mike who knows and is a good friend with Helmut Sinn and it is Sinn who helped Mike get started. Mike was also guided by a few other people he had the pleasure to work with, you may have heard of them before - Gerd-R Lange & Walter Lange. (Chronoswiss and A. Lange & Sons respectively)
Actually, Mike has changed his entire line of watches completely from when they were first introduced. His first watches were a collaboration with Helmet Sinn of Guinand-Watch. These watches were essentially Guinand-Watches rebadged with the Kobold name. Contrary to rumor (or is that rumour) Mike did not have "millions" and was lucky enough to have Helmut help him with his start and rebadging of a limited number of watches. These few watches were all Mike could afford initially. (This is not to say that later, as Mike began to run a successful watch business his father, who saw a good investment opportunity, did not invest some money) His watches now are exclusively his by design and in fact he has come up with some very original ideas. As far as using ETA movmn'ts - you have got to be kidding! I won't even begin the list of reputable watch makers who use ETA movemn'ts (it's way too long for this post)
As far as impersonating a police officer goes, yes Mike was charged with this. However, if you knew the details, you would be laughing pretty hard at the speculation that the very young and naive Kobold (at the time of the incident) was looking to establish a "tough guy" image. Kobold has publicly apologized for his mistake and like any story, there are two sides. Always be cautious of someone who is quick to spread rumors with out knowing the facts.
As for as Navy Seals or anyone else for that matter who wears Kobold watches, check his web site. He has a list of who wears Kobolds. As a member of the Law Enforcement community that share a fondness for Kobold watches, I can assure you that every person or organization mentioned on Kobold's list uses Kobold watches. And as a side note, Kobold has not and does not give watches to people to wear. He does, however, give Military and Law Enforcement a small discount. Further, many Kobold watches you have seen on celebrities wrists are returned to Kobold who auctions them off and gives the proceeds to charities.
And probably the only thing I can say I agree with you on is that I wish the prices did not go up so much. Mike, however, as a businessman, made a decision to try and enter the high end market. He knows what he is doing and it is his company to make or break. As of today, I might add, he seems to be doing just fine with his "little watch Co."
The "misspelling" of surveyour on his watch is not misspelled. Mike was a German kid who was sent to English boarding schools for much of his education, hence the European way of spelling surveyor - as in honour - sorry.
As a whole, I can tell you one thing for sure. Mike Kobold loves watches and is a genuinely nice guy who makes awesome watches.
Here is something not everyone knows and I am not sure Mike would want me to reveal, but he shares a little something in common with us rep collectors. One evening, my wife and I were having dinner with Mike and as usual, he was wearing two watches, one on each wrist. He saw me looking at his Rolex Daytona and in an instant it was off his wrist as he handed it to me. Mike said "isn't it amazing" - I didn't particularly like Rolex's and this watch was a beater, so I wasn't sure what the amazement was. Then Mike told me - "It's a replica" He went on to say how good the watch was made and that he was amazed with the high end watch reps coming from China and he seemed honestly impressed!
I met Mike because of my passion for nice watches. We quickly discovered we shared the same passion and that was all it took to develop a friendship. I did not have an image to sell or millions to give to Mike. He has treated me fair and as a friend from the day we met. I would like to believe most people who share our passion for watches are as gracious and kind as Mike - too bad it is not always true
Kevin
QUOTE(longshot @ Apr 18 2006, 02:06 PM) *
Michael Kobold is a spoiled rich kid whose father (a wealthy German industrialist, see Kobold Instruments) gave him a few million dollars to start a watch compeny....
Well, here we see how internet rumors are perpetuated. I am admittedly not what one would considered unbiased in my opinion (I own four Kobolds) but I do speak with a little bit of reliable authority as I have known Mike Kobold since he started his "little watch Co." For starters, he is as gracious as any person I have met and his father did not give him "a few million dollars to start a watch company". His father actually was against the idea initially. Also, it is Mike who knows and is a good friend with Helmut Sinn and it is Sinn who helped Mike get started. Mike was also guided by a few other people he had the pleasure to work with, you may have heard of them before - Gerd-R Lange & Walter Lange. (Chronoswiss and A. Lange & Sons respectively)
Actually, Mike has changed his entire line of watches completely from when they were first introduced. His first watches were a collaboration with Helmet Sinn of Guinand-Watch. These watches were essentially Guinand-Watches rebadged with the Kobold name. Contrary to rumor (or is that rumour) Mike did not have "millions" and was lucky enough to have Helmut help him with his start and rebadging of a limited number of watches. These few watches were all Mike could afford initially. (This is not to say that later, as Mike began to run a successful watch business his father, who saw a good investment opportunity, did not invest some money) His watches now are exclusively his by design and in fact he has come up with some very original ideas. As far as using ETA movmn'ts - you have got to be kidding! I won't even begin the list of reputable watch makers who use ETA movemn'ts (it's way too long for this post)
As far as impersonating a police officer goes, yes Mike was charged with this. However, if you knew the details, you would be laughing pretty hard at the speculation that the very young and naive Kobold (at the time of the incident) was looking to establish a "tough guy" image. Kobold has publicly apologized for his mistake and like any story, there are two sides. Always be cautious of someone who is quick to spread rumors with out knowing the facts.
As for as Navy Seals or anyone else for that matter who wears Kobold watches, check his web site. He has a list of who wears Kobolds. As a member of the Law Enforcement community that share a fondness for Kobold watches, I can assure you that every person or organization mentioned on Kobold's list uses Kobold watches. And as a side note, Kobold has not and does not give watches to people to wear. He does, however, give Military and Law Enforcement a small discount. Further, many Kobold watches you have seen on celebrities wrists are returned to Kobold who auctions them off and gives the proceeds to charities.
And probably the only thing I can say I agree with you on is that I wish the prices did not go up so much. Mike, however, as a businessman, made a decision to try and enter the high end market. He knows what he is doing and it is his company to make or break. As of today, I might add, he seems to be doing just fine with his "little watch Co."
The "misspelling" of surveyour on his watch is not misspelled. Mike was a German kid who was sent to English boarding schools for much of his education, hence the European way of spelling surveyor - as in honour - sorry.
As a whole, I can tell you one thing for sure. Mike Kobold loves watches and is a genuinely nice guy who makes awesome watches.
Here is something not everyone knows and I am not sure Mike would want me to reveal, but he shares a little something in common with us rep collectors. One evening, my wife and I were having dinner with Mike and as usual, he was wearing two watches, one on each wrist. He saw me looking at his Rolex Daytona and in an instant it was off his wrist as he handed it to me. Mike said "isn't it amazing" - I didn't particularly like Rolex's and this watch was a beater, so I wasn't sure what the amazement was. Then Mike told me - "It's a replica" He went on to say how good the watch was made and that he was amazed with the high end watch reps coming from China and he seemed honestly impressed!
I met Mike because of my passion for nice watches. We quickly discovered we shared the same passion and that was all it took to develop a friendship. I did not have an image to sell or millions to give to Mike. He has treated me fair and as a friend from the day we met. I would like to believe most people who share our passion for watches are as gracious and kind as Mike - too bad it is not always true
Kevin
Kobold
Very nice thread. I like it very much when someone in the know gives us a liitle something true to read.
I like the design and am kind of jealous that these beautifully made time pieces are just out of reach for me.
Come to think of it, must buy a lootery ticket!
Thanks for the write up.
Spring is eternal.
Very nice thread. I like it very much when someone in the know gives us a liitle something true to read.
I like the design and am kind of jealous that these beautifully made time pieces are just out of reach for me.
Come to think of it, must buy a lootery ticket!
Thanks for the write up.
Spring is eternal.
LOL ...what a nice post..and a nice story...I better stay in the reps world then ..LOL..I should not come out from underwater ..
Great info Jake. Like I said I like the Kobolds, but not at the price point it is at now. Maybe in the future when my disposable income increases...
Eddy
Eddy
I HATED panerai when I first started surfing these forums. Stupid-big clown watch I thought ....but everyone was singing it's praises.Ok, there must be something to them I thought. I bought rep panerai and loved the watches so much I had to buy a gen. There have been many a person who thought my PAM was fugly only to love it now.
Kobold was not a watch that I liked the looks of initially, but like the pam it's looks have grown on me considerably after seeing one in the flesh.
I have a feeling that we may be comparing and bitching about the flaws in our Kobold watches here in few years.
Kobold was not a watch that I liked the looks of initially, but like the pam it's looks have grown on me considerably after seeing one in the flesh.
I have a feeling that we may be comparing and bitching about the flaws in our Kobold watches here in few years.
speedy1 said:
EXACTLY - I can't tell you how many times I have looked at a watch (pictures) and then when I see the watch in person I am totally suprised at how much different (sometimes bad, sometimes good) the watch looks in real living flesh. I think if you are fortunate enough to be near an AD for Kobold watches you would find that the watch really is a beautiful watch. Hopefully as more Kobold watches are out there, it will be easier to pick up a used one and then maybe you can find one for a price that is more affordable.
One of the things that I like about Kobold watches, that doesn't really show in pictures of the watch, is that Kobold uses different types of metal finishes, brushed, polished and satin, all on the same watch.
speedy1 said:
So which GEn Pam you bought, If you dont mind me asking ?? What it feels beside the reps ?? Never own gen pam yet ...dont know how it feels...but I like Pam so much ..
Check out a Sinn or Bell&Ross or Tutima
or even some Fortis or Hanhart if you can find one. Similar to Kobold (Sinn was Kolbold's training ground), but more pedigree and better chance to pick up a used gen at a good price, right around $1000 if you look.
or even some Fortis or Hanhart if you can find one. Similar to Kobold (Sinn was Kolbold's training ground), but more pedigree and better chance to pick up a used gen at a good price, right around $1000 if you look.
I like Sinn and Bell & Ross better then kobold..but pricey mate.. ..yeah should find the used one LOL
..yeah should find the used one LOL