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Just getting started - PAM 111 and 605

w0rn

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First let me thank all the good members and mod's in this forum that contribute with so much knowledge and information, especially ALE7575 for his superb PAM guide and generous sharing of his time.
Have to send some thank you to Ryan at Intime also for getting me the watches.

Wasn't so long ago since I joined this forum and started reading and gathered information.
That lead me to I got this home.

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A NOOB 111V3.
I'm not entirely sure if it's really a pure V3 as I ordered the watch just in the phase of NOOB going from V3 to what will become perhaps an V4?

And just recently this arrived in my mailbox.

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I really like both of these watches but in a different way.
As I have read in this forum the NOOB 111 is one of the closest rep av an gen, atleast in the PAM world.
That together with me really like the PAM 111 was the triggering factor that lead me to order it.
When you are new in something, as I am in rep watches, I think you are better of to listen to other people and there knowledge first and together with your own opinion and what you fancy in a watch, before you order it.

With the KW605 it was a different story.
I noticed it in a forum thread here (a big thank you to the starter of it) and the dial instantly caught my eyes.
It was, for me, a stunner, so alive with it's sun flares and shifting i color depending of light.
I know that the rep is not near to a real 605, with the movement being a masked 6497 movement, the dial being a little of in color and so on..
But you know what?
I don't care, this watch is for me is a pleasure to put on the wrist and it feels so good there.
Don't get me wrong, so are the 111 but in a different way.
The 605 is bigger than the 111 but it feels smaller when you have it on.

Now, what am I going with this?
I'm starting to understand that for me a perfect rep of an watch is not the full story.
As a "newbie" you start to read around and gather all the knowledge you can, hopefully, before you order.
And in that you might miss the point in why your interest in watches started.
For me it was that I wanted something nice to have on my wrist to keep track of time, instead of getting the Iphone out of my pockets all the time.
I didn't start my buying of watches in the REP world, instead it was with homage watches.
Because of that the perfection to the gen wasn't a priority.
The priority thing started here
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I feel that it is so easy to forget the first reason to why I like to wear a nice watch on my wrist and starting to pursue perfection instead, and miss out of the beauty of the watch.
And I'm happy that I have come to that insight before I got myself 30 or 40 rep's.
And that was the reason to why I got my, not perfect to gen 605
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Don't get me wrong, I'm here to stay in the REP world and not going back to the Homage watches.

The homages watches will serve me good when I start to tinkering with whats inside of the watch, soon there
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Some more pics of the PAM's and one of my collection so far.

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Two comparative pictures of the dials of the 111 and 605

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Oh, as you might see in the picture above, I'm not a pure rep Pamaholic, there's a NOOB CRPO in the box
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Uberschall

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Words of wisdom, good pictures and great choice of reps - I am waiting on my 605 to arrive any day now... :laugh:

You're off to a great start! Welcome to the best rep forum in the universe! :punk:
 

lmmo

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A NOOB 111V3.
I'm not entirely sure if it's really a pure V3 as I ordered the watch just in the phase of NOOB going from V3 to what will become perhaps an V4?

Why do you believe it might be a v4? Can you share some photos of the crown guard viewed from above? And a 3/4 view of the case? Thanks!
 

chris3007

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Congrats, I really like the 605. 111 looks extremely boring next to the 605!


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w0rn

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@Immo,
I don't belive that it is an v.4, my thought is that it might not be an pure v.3 as I bought it in the timescale that they started to mix old (v.3) parts with new.
This have been talked about in this forum.
I can later take som photos for you to see if that is of interest.
 

w0rn

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Thanks chris3007.
I wouldn't go so far to call the 111 boring :greedy:
But the 605 have another sort of life to itself and it's dial.
 

w0rn

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Here are pictures of the CG and case

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ShadyManc

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Great choices, I have a rep 605 incoming & I'm on the waiting list for a gen 605 due in October. Enjoy & wear in great health.
 

lmmo

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Here are pictures of the CG and case

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It looks to be a v4 crown guard... but I'm not an expert so I will let the gurus like [MENTION=35350]ALE7575[/MENTION] and others to give their views
 

w0rn

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[MENTION=65408]ShadyManc[/MENTION].. That will be a good day for you when you get the gen 605, but I think you will be pleased with the rep in the meantime, it's good!

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ALE7575

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CG and CG pin are V4 regarding quality
Lever clearly V3
Crown clearly V3
Crystal seems V3
Case is neither pure V3 not pure V4, most likely a transition model, better than V3 but not so nice and well finished as V4 (anyway midcase surface between lugs are nice)

Overall nice watch

ALE
 

w0rn

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Thank you ALE7575, you confirmed my thoughts about the watch that it wasn't a pure V3.
But it's looking good, and I don't mind the mixed parts.
 

mackdedi

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Hi all,
i am only 2 months into rwi and this rep world... But i already hv 12 reps... 4 in my box are pam reps... I really like the darkside.

thanks to ale ( u r awesome, been reading your posts a lot) and your post, i am getting the 111 and 605 next...

awesome!!
 

ALE7575

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Hi all,
i am only 2 months into rwi and this rep world... But i already hv 12 reps... 4 in my box are pam reps... I really like the darkside.

thanks to ale ( u r awesome, been reading your posts a lot) and your post, i am getting the 111 and 605 next...

awesome!!

Thanks friend for your comments
ALE
 

mrsunshine

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CG and CG pin are V4 regarding quality
Lever clearly V3
Crown clearly V3
Crystal seems V3
Case is neither pure V3 not pure V4, most likely a transition model, better than V3 but not so nice and well finished as V4 (anyway midcase surface between lugs are nice)

Overall nice watch

ALE


hi ALE,

do you think it's smart to wait out for the PAM111 Noob v4, as it seems that there's a transition from V3 to V4?

Do the PRC chinese have a track record of making the replica worse from an earlier version to an updated version??
 

kampachi

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Same batch like the one i got. new batch V4 case (mine from toro), V3 for the rest.
 

ALE7575

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hi ALE,

do you think it's smart to wait out for the PAM111 Noob v4, as it seems that there's a transition from V3 to V4?

Do the PRC chinese have a track record of making the replica worse from an earlier version to an updated version??

This depend just on you. Usually at this moment Noob is delivering V4 case but the crown and mainly lever are V3. If you have luck you could get V4 case with V4 "slim" crown but the lever will be almost sure a V3.
But I cannot assure when the complete change will be made.

With PAM 111 all new versions have been better than previous

ALE
 

mrsunshine

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This depend just on you. Usually at this moment Noob is delivering V4 case but the crown and mainly lever are V3. If you have luck you could get V4 case with V4 "slim" crown but the lever will be almost sure a V3.
But I cannot assure when the complete change will be made.

With PAM 111 all new versions have been better than previous

ALE

hi Ale,

thanks for your reply.

I shall go ahead and report back with QC pics on the appropriate thread.