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JLC Reverso Replica watch (needs identifying)

cazoo

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So this watch belonged to my father in law who passed it on to me amongst other watches, none of which are replica's, but i was recently informed by a reliable source that this JLC Reverso model is 100% a replica, and after taking a closer look + opening the back, it became clear that in fact this is no original. Just wondering if anyone here has come across a replica like this one before. My father in law is italian, so is this watches provenance as you can tell from the lettering on the leather bracelet.


 
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Liam F

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It's a lovely thing. If you find out please let me know as I want to buy a JLC Reverso rep
 

cazoo

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would love to know more about it, but honestly, bar this forum, i probably wont go looking very far as I dont generally have interest in watches, replcias or not :) so hopefully some learned member of the forum will give a little insight :)
 

cazoo

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oh and by the way it works fine as I have recently replaced the battery myself - something which wouldnt be possible on a real Reverso i presume
 

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Originally I thought the quartz movement was a huge giveaway of not being genuine...but after some googling...it appears JL made quartz movements for the Reverso. The dial printing doesn't look crisp to me, but...knowing JL made these with quartz movements, I suppose it could be the real deal. Probably need a view of the movement to see if it has JL markings on it.

 
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cazoo

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Originally I thought the quartz movement was a huge giveaway of not being genuine...but after some googling...it appears JL made quartz movements for the Reverso. The dial printing doesn't look crisp to me, but...knowing JL made these with quartz movements, I suppose it could be the real deal. Probably need a view of the movement to see if it has JL markings on it.


Ok well that is interesting, i had it checked by Fellows (online auction house) here in the Uk and they just went straight to "its not a genuine watch" probably because of the dial printing, but they also mentioned a couple of other things, which i dont remember at present. But i didnt send them a photo of the mechanism as I didnt think more of it at the time and only possibly opened it subsequently to change the battery myself, which now i am a little giddy about, knowing that IF it is a genuien watch, i would have probably prefered to take it into a watch dealer to have changed. Still i manated to swap it without too much trouble and it is ticking by quite happily at present. I am adding some shots of the mechanism and back side of rear plate. Thanks for looking into it Specter, hope new images help somewhat.

PS: so just looked at photos on my computer, and i can clearly see the mention on a japanes watch mechanism in there... hmmm ok ill let the experts jump in on this one.

 

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ok, that does it...its not real. Miyota quartz movement. No way JLC used Miyota. Citizen watches use Miyotas...not JLC.

Plus that is in no way what a quartz movement looked like in the 1970s.
 

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a few things that just looked odd as well

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cazoo

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a few things that just looked odd as well

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right, ws quite sure it wouldnt be an original, and yesthe swiss made over the 6 looks pretty bad added to the fact that generally the swiss made mention seems to appear on the upper end of the face on most Reverso's i have seen. Thanks for your input Specter ! (y)
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Just because it's not real doesn't mean you can't have fun and wear it! That quartz movement will keep great time.
 

cazoo

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for sure, i might just, though i havent worn a watch for over 25 years ... im sure saying such a thing is blasphemy on a watch related forum. another evil side effect of smart phones ... ;)
 

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Japanese Miyota Quartz made in Malaysia, Vietnam or Thailand (or China?) in a gen Swiss watch? Yeah. No, not really. 🫣😅

Only if the previous owner needed to replace it, humongously cheaped out and told his watchmaker to mod it to work with a non-Swiss movement! 🤣😆