Is there a new version ( series ) of KW V2 ST255 PAM 359 out there?

[DR3M3L]

I decided to try a new dealer I stumbled upon on this forum last week. After reading ALE's guide very very thoroughly ( which I do everytime before I buy a new PAM and sometimes just for fun ) I decided to go for a KW V2 N series PAM359 with Seagull movement, which is supposed to be almost in the super rep league. The seller confirmed that it was in stock and I made a payment. After a couple of days he sent me the qc pics and I was all excited and almost confirmed shipping..but I did notice that the watch was the O-series version. The guide says that the O-series is some Puretime version and supposedly not as good as the KW version, so I declined and went for the KW O-series PAM312 with Seagull which was in stock instead. The seller now claims ( after the nex best thing - the 312 - has been shipped ) that the O series PAM359 is indeed a KW watch with Seagull and that they make it the O series now instead of N. I haven't found anything on this topic so far and would like to know if anybody has any info on this matter. Thanks in advance for your time and replies!

 

[mysterio]

If your QC photos show the balance wheel @6 instead of @11, then the PAM359 might be just a V2 KW PAM359 with an updated O-series caseback.

 

[Therion666]

I was fixated on the information I got from the guide which is clear that the O series comes from some other maker ( Puretime version ). But the watch on the qc pics has the balance wheel at 6...so I guess I messed up.. I told the seller I wanted a KW ST255 version, he said he can't source it, so I went for the 312 instead, but he told me that the watch was indeed a KW AFTER he sent me the tracking number!!! God damn...and I wanted the 359 so bad.. Why didn't he say something..

 

[Therion666]

That's the one:

 

[Sirlordcomic]

Just received mine from Sead

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[Therion666]

And it's supposed to be a KW?

 

[mysterio]

And it's supposed to be a KW?

Only KW was known to have released a ST2555 based P.9000 decorated movement, and dealers would know which maker they got their rep from, so I would say it's a safe bet it is a KW.

 

[Therion666]

Yeah, I realize that now..Should have asked sooner, but I was sure it wasn't the right one..Well, water under the bridge now.. I think this should be mentioned in the "Guide".

 

[ALE7575]

Yeah, I realize that now..Should have asked sooner, but I was sure it wasn't the right one..Well, water under the bridge now.. I think this should be mentioned in the "Guide".

Dear friend I cannot avoid that a naker releases a rep with N-series (see the pics in all catalogues available) and without previous announcement it changes to O-series. We are talking about reps and there are neither fixed rules nor concrete specifications

Anyway in the GUIDE is clearly indicated that Seagull has balance wheel @6 and you QC pics show clearly the BW is in that position. Obviously it is a Seagull. Since it is also clearly indicated that only KW has Seagull version, you could have supposed some weird thing in your watch and asked about that in the forum.

I will include this new matter in the PAM GUIDE indicating that Seagull KW version can have N or O-series on caseback

Thanks for the info

ALE

 

[Therion666]

Live and learn, right ? Thanks ALE and all you guys!

 

[carlton]

I got an "O" series for QC last week too and after i compare with the movement pic, i can say that it is really a KW version.