Is the Seagull ST2555 the same with Asian 23J ?

[feeluniversal]

Currently considering buying a white dial Panerai and after reading ALE7575's Guide thread, Pam499 looks like the best choice for me.
But from the Guide thread, KP9000-Seagull V2 is the best opinion, but I can only find Pam 499 with Asian 23J. Could anyone tell me are these 2 movements the same?

 

[mysterio]

I searched google, and you know what? It led me back here. :lol:

https://forum.replica-watch.info/vb...-***-Seagull-ST2555-vs-Asian-23J-Movement-***

Anyway, in a nutshell, they are the same. The Seagul ST2555 is made by an Asian company and has 23 jewels, so Asian 23J. It's also sometimes denoted by indicating the watch is a Lite version, which is nothing of the sort. Ah, factories and dealers, how they love to confuse us. Hahaha

 

[kingcrab]

yes what Sir Mysterio said

 

[feeluniversal]

Many thanks to both of you, it is very good to know!!!

 

[Tom-HK]

I have had nothing but good experiences with Sea-gull movements. I have a few (gen) Chinese watches using ST1901 and ST8000 movements and I have found them all to be solid and dependable (and the ST1901s have even turned out to be good timekeepers). That's not to say I would trust all Sea-gulls, but then I always go through a guy who I know and trust and that gives me peace of mind. It's a simple extension of the old 'buy the seller' mantra: you might end up with a lemon regardless of which company manufactured the movement and then you'll want to know that you can depend upon the seller to make things right.

 

[mysterio]

In short, buy from the TDs.

 

[ALE7575]

Follow mysterio advice. He knows

ALE

 

[Knifemaker]

+ 2!!! ;-)

Knife

 

[pure b]

Seagulls are suposed to be bomb proof. My GF has a IWC with ST2555 for over 2 years and it still runs perfect. It runs 1 min fast every 2 weeks!!!

I got a 569 with ST2555 and bought an extra movement so I could use the original rotor and remove the deco plates. Oiled the rotor bearing and it's nice and silent now and it's way more stable without the elevated rotor

 

[bro708]

I'm wearing a KW Seagull 499 right now! Got ST2555s in my 438, 351, 312, 499 and 505 and no problems with any of them to date. Balance wheel is n a slightly better position than the decorated 7750s too, I'd always go for a Seagull when there's an option. Cheaper and just as good if not better...