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Is it safe to send money via paypal "friends and family?"

maorerock424

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i talked with them - number - +86 151 2103 7121
and the only option is paypal "friends and family" where i don't have any buyer's protection.. what can i do?
 

Kerbus

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I sent a deposit that way. They received it. I prefer this way rather than giving out my cc number
 
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Kerbus

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To clarify, I sent PP FF with a different dealer but anyone accepting it ought to be fine
 

Hesekiel

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I use PayPal Friends & Family only for family members and friends.

I use it for purchases here on RWI as a buyer and a seller for certified members and trusted dealers. I do not use it for transactions with questionable vendors.
 
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Never use F&F unless it's with a Trusted dealer but as the same time there is always risk with customs. Etc. Etc.

Using f&f with someone u met on the forums is a major risk. I rather spend 100$ more and have protection...
 

Kerbus

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That's a big reason why I only purchased from someone from the forum once. I'd rather spend more for a new watch as well
 
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Kerbus

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The trusted dealers on this forum have all gone through an approval process. I'm confident with them.
 
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maorerock424

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i don't think i will use friends and family with no one, not even with friends
 

Kerbus

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Use something like WISE then. I attempted to set up an account and it was nothing but a pain in the ass that failed
 
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Elliot Black

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I dont think TDs here will accept Paypal goods and services, at least I dont, because its easily for people to claim money back after receiving watches, say to Paypal the recipient is selling replica of ROLEX, or even without excuses u can take the money back through Paypal through goods and services.

I have had very bad situation in 2013, someone bought 5K US dollar Watches through Goods and services, immediately took money back after receiving all the watches and blocked me. The appeal on Paypal says the sender is claiming u send box of rock with traced tracking number. That what is for dealing with people through Paypal goods and services. Sellers have to suck it up, people jump over to say I can pay u 100USD more to use goods and services. Whatever, u can send 1 million through goods and services, and take money back as long as u want after u receive goods.

Things is we dont know buyer, buyer can do anything they want, can be one time shopping turned to stealing, We are here to sell watches according to the reputation earned very hard here, no reason for use to scam a buyer to risk our reputation and damage the business.

I have been receiving friend and family no issues from my clients, On RWI, you have to trust seller by reviewing the feedbacks. if you insist on using goods and services than other payment method, u will have to spend more time to find someone who can accept here.

I DO RECOMMEND WISE, REVOLUT, CRYPTO CURRENCY (USDT-TRC20), WESTERN UNION ABOVE PAYPAL. (They are cheaper for both side)

I hope above story can help u guys understand the Paypal friend and family against goods and services on here.

Rgds
Elliot
 

Kerbus

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I'm happy to send funds by PP FF to a dealer I have researched and can trust. I would strongly advise against using it if you don't know much about the dealer. Each payment method works for different people. As long as you receive your watch,that's what really matters in the long run
 

maorerock424

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I dont think TDs here will accept Paypal goods and services, at least I dont, because its easily for people to claim money back after receiving watches, say to Paypal the recipient is selling replica of ROLEX, or even without excuses u can take the money back through Paypal through goods and services.

I have had very bad situation in 2013, someone bought 5K US dollar Watches through Goods and services, immediately took money back after receiving all the watches and blocked me. The appeal on Paypal says the sender is claiming u send box of rock with traced tracking number. That what is for dealing with people through Paypal goods and services. Sellers have to suck it up, people jump over to say I can pay u 100USD more to use goods and services. Whatever, u can send 1 million through goods and services, and take money back as long as u want after u receive goods.

Things is we dont know buyer, buyer can do anything they want, can be one time shopping turned to stealing, We are here to sell watches according to the reputation earned very hard here, no reason for use to scam a buyer to risk our reputation and damage the business.

I have been receiving friend and family no issues from my clients, On RWI, you have to trust seller by reviewing the feedbacks. if you insist on using goods and services than other payment method, u will have to spend more time to find someone who can accept here.

I DO RECOMMEND WISE, REVOLUT, CRYPTO CURRENCY (USDT-TRC20), WESTERN UNION ABOVE PAYPAL. (They are cheaper for both side)

I hope above story can help u guys understand the Paypal friend and family against goods and services on here.

Rgds
Elliot
i am new here and i don't know what trusted dealers are. i know that every store in the world and also online stores use credit card. if i transfer money to someone he can do whatever he wants with the money
 
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i am new here and i don't know what trusted dealers are. i know that every store in the world and also online stores use credit card. if i transfer money to someone he can do whatever he wants with the money
Ok. Then don't buy replicas. End of story.

No offense but please go read the FAQs. You sound like a problem customer. You need to read the FAQs and New Member Area before buying anything. Do your research please.

A word of warning, even if dealers let you pay by Credit Card or Paypal, you should NEVER chargeback or dispute it on Paypal. You will be blacklisted from dealers and probably the forum.

The forum helpdesk is the way to go if you need to resolve issues regarding transactions with TD.

Last of all, some advice for you.

This is a illegal fake watch industry. Please understand this. It is not Amazon. Sometimes things can go wrong and it isnt perfect. If you want perfection buy geninue watch for 30x the cost.
 

Elliot Black

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Ok. Then don't buy replicas. End of story.

No offense but please go read the FAQs. You sound like a problem customer. You need to read the FAQs and New Member Area before buying anything. Do your research please.

A word of warning, even if dealers let you pay by Credit Card or Paypal, you should NEVER chargeback or dispute it on Paypal. You will be blacklisted from dealers and probably the forum.

The forum helpdesk is the way to go if you need to resolve issues regarding transactions with TD.

Last of all, some advice for you.

This is a illegal fake watch industry. Please understand this. It is not Amazon. Sometimes things can go wrong and it isnt perfect. If you want perfection buy geninue watch for 30x the cost.
Try speech, thanks.
 
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Poonky

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I bought a rep yesterday for the first time. Also from Elliot (I believe). Some number as you posted.

So far I can’t complain. Good guy to talk to who answered all my questions as good as possible.

Payment/Order via F+F also got confirmed quite quickly.
Now waiting for QC and will have to see how the order will go.

I’ll definitely will write a review at the end to share all of my experiences 🙂
 

neveglass

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Both the buyer and the seller are taking risks throughout the transaction, and it's going to take some trust and faith from both parties along the way. It's a beautiful thing when it works out, and Andiot is a trustworthy dealer.

As mentioned before, this isn't Amazon and buying a rep from a TD is going to take a lot of patience on the buyer's side. Manage your expectations accordingly. The TD is taking a risk in simply acquiring the merchandise and distributing it is a whole other story - especially shipping it around the world, through customs, etc.

Trust you are in good hands with Elliot. :cool: