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Incredible REP PAM 213 ultimate

matsuki

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I find a seller on internet, he said he sell REP PAM 213 ultimate just very closer to gen, unlike generally on the markets level,
he say it's way better than (USD 100~800 range) rep that poeple general buying now,
he also say he can deal face to face so there is unnecessary to pay him first, but the price is very expensive, it's about 1516USD, Do you believe this? Is anyone here ever buy a rep like this? He say he willing to do it face to face because he have extremely confidence with his watches that exactly 100% same as his pictures, He say he guarantee 100% the watch he sell is what we see in the pictures below,
If it's not , the customer won't loss because they have not pay him yet.
Is these kind of high level reps really exist in this world? And if it is, how much price is the reasonable price?
Below are his pics on his website, please check! And please let me know what do you think?
pam213repa.jpg

I can't find any flaw on this watch, any comment?
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pam213repc.jpg


This is his 213 back, he say the movement is exactly this picture
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His another Pam 243 pics on his website, just like real thing
pam243repc.jpg
 

ThinkBachs

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It would be easier if we had more info about the dealer. Amazing what you can find on the internet with just a little more information...
 

acharria

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It would be easier if we had more info about the dealer. Amazing what you can find on the internet with just a little more information...

We dont know if is true yet.
There is only pictures, nobody see the watch yet.
What its amazing is the number of scams on internet.
 

747

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I would ask what sort of movement is in it? Then take it to a watch smith to verify.
Personally I would not spend that sort of money on a rep... when I spend big money (300 plus) I only buy from trusted member here.
Otherwise I would just by a 7750 rep and get the mods done myself (likewsie through members here). That way I have more control and I know what I have paid for).
Thats just me.
747
 

hooligan

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Did I read that right? $1516 USD? If you're considering sending some unknown internet vendor $1500+, you need to have your head examined! :err:

Ask yourself why none of the dealers listed here and the other rep fora don't have this "super watch". The answer is because it doesn't exist.

Those look, to me, like photos of the gen watch. DO NOT EVER TRUST SOMEONE WHO POSTS GEN PHOTOS WHILST TRYING TO SELL A REP.
 

Panoris

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I'm dubious, as with the rest of the members. With no details, no reputation, and no first hand accounts of legitimacy, there is no reason for anyone to think this is anything BUT a scam. Caveat Emptor.
 

matsuki

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No offend, I mentioned he deal face to face so there is unnecessary to pay him first, if customer see the watch he bring and it's not 100% same as his pics , can just leave and no need to pay any money to him,so ,I'm curious how he defraud money from customers? : )

the problem to me is his place is about 5 hours drive, what I concern about is if there is no that kind of high level rep in this world, I will waste my time to drive 10 hours to go there and back , so I want to ask is anyone here have ever see a rep watch like this high level? : )
 

pcsam

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dont waste your 10 hours drive and your $ mate ............... it must be scam of some sort ......
 

KTMracer

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Walk away from it, buddy. Even a Davidsen rep isn't more than 400USD
 

hooligan

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If this is a rep, why blur out the serial numbers on the caseback? I say again these are pics of the GENUINE watch. Anyone using them is trying to mislead you/misrepresent the watch. Save yourself the 10 hrs of driving and a tank of gas.
 

acharria

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No offend, I mentioned he deal face to face so there is unnecessary to pay him first, if customer see the watch he bring and it's not 100% same as his pics , can just leave and no need to pay any money to him,so ,I'm curious how he defraud money from customers? : )

the problem to me is his place is about 5 hours drive, what I concern about is if there is no that kind of high level rep in this world, I will waste my time to drive 10 hours to go there and back , so I want to ask is anyone here have ever see a rep watch like this high level? : )


BEWARE....Your r going to meet someone with 1500 cash, Its no a scam its a easy way of arm robbery. dont be naive and be careful.:arghh:
 

Xaval

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Man, those pics are too good to be true... anyway, if that guy sells for that price let HIM do the 10 hour drive and meet you at a place of your choice.
 

alvinado

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no way... these is obviously a rip off, the movement on the rattapantre is a gen movement..
 

jimmyj

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Anythings possible but not probable! Id take the posse with me and maybe a COLT 45 just in case.
 

Fiddo

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No offend, I mentioned he deal face to face so there is unnecessary to pay him first, if customer see the watch he bring and it's not 100% same as his pics , can just leave and no need to pay any money to him,so ,I'm curious how he defraud money from customers? : )

the problem to me is his place is about 5 hours drive, what I concern about is if there is no that kind of high level rep in this world, I will waste my time to drive 10 hours to go there and back , so I want to ask is anyone here have ever see a rep watch like this high level? : )
Does he also want you to pay him cash? I don't think meeting a complete stranger, who is making dishonest claims about a "super-rep", with $1500 cash in your pocket would turn out well at all.

Also, as Hooligan stated, those really look like pictures of a gen watch.
 

herusix

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Chances are that if you meet this person they may well show you a original/genuine watch so you think that you are buying a top class replica,then switch it with your average rep when you are not paying attention.
They then disappear before you have chance to check,knowing that you will have no way of tracing them as you will have paid cash to some stranger.

Don't do it ,if it sounds to good to be true then it usually is.
 

CBR

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Very nice pics of a gen watch... If he asks to meet in a dark alley after dark, I would say your probably safe.
But really? Are you serious?
 

matsuki

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I'm very sincerely thanks all my friends here to remind me to avoid risks , I will be very carefully,
Because I never saw a rep of Panerai 213,
Is any one here ever see a Panerai 213 rep?
start from curiosity, I phone him yesterday, He say he just a dealer in China ,he is not direct from a factory,
All his watches are made by a rep factory but use Swiss ETA movement, and some major outward parts are came from original supplier of gen, some parts are their special OEM, that is the reason of the cost is very expensive, he say not only him sell those super reps in this world, somewhere in Europe or U.S is doing the same thing, Is anyone here ever seen a super rep like he mentioned?
And I ask him about blur out the serial numbers on the caseback, he explain some rep watch website are doing the same,too, some his customers don't want to show their serial numbers on internet because that will tell their watch is fake.
he also say if concern about safety, he can deal at train station,he emphasize again if any customer see the watch he bring but not same as his pictures, they can just leave and he won't get any money, and he also willing to drive to buyer's place maybe one hour distance but if too far to him, he always deal with DHL after receive the money many times, I'm curious how he defraud money from customers like this? I know some one here will say : If you are so curious why don't you just deal with him once and tell every one here what's happen....
I know most friends reply here are all good intention to keep me away from risks,
I'm very appreciate so I'm going to take these advice!