Are you guys knocking the Noob v3 PAM 111? At under $300 shipped from Andrew or Angus it's a great deal (make sure you get the fixed dial, there's a GREAT guide here about that), has that classic PAM appeal, and is almost perfect out of the box. As a FIRST PAM, that would be my personal opinion (bowing down to the PAM Gods on this forum who have helped me in more ways than they know)... Ironically enough, I have 3 PAMS: the KW 320 mentioned by everyone else, the 111 I reference, and a genuine F series 113 (why? Cause you gotta have a white dial - that, and I got a sick deal on it 'cause purists hate the dial layout)