I want to a copy of this Panerai What Is It????

[lacklusterplus]

I have no idea what model number it is. The dial is a great aged tobacco brown, the gold hands with patina, the aged lume. I don't think it is a sandwich dial. I am pretty sure the case size is 47mm. The back is blank.

I haven't seen anyone selling something even close to this.

 

[Cucumber_Jones]

Our man Davidsen can put this one together for you see this link. http://replica-watch.info/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8904

 

[lacklusterplus]

Our man Davidsen can put this one together for you see this link. http://replica-watch.info/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8904

Thanks, I have seen that link before. Unfortunately the dial is a sandwich dial and is not tobacco brown. So it is certainly close. May have to talk to him about doing something different with the dial.

 

[lacklusterplus]

it's a 6152/1 all of which have sandwich dials - DSN has brown and black dials, you choose the one you want.

I see. So you are saying that the watch pictured above (that is in fact genuine) has a sandwich dial even though it doesn't look like it?

Also, I was concerned about the font and text size/spacing on the Davidsen dial is very different than the genuine pictured above. IT seems it would be very easy to tell the fake. What do you think?
I think he has dials without text also, so that may be an option for me as well.

 

[Cucumber_Jones]

I don't care how good the rep or homage is people will know that you do not have a 50 year old panerai that is worth $50,000 or more.

Some dials were brown some were black. There is lots of variation. They are all "old style" sandwich dials however. You need to look a little closer at that photo you provided. I have 100's of photos of panerai of this era and yes they are "old style" sandwich dials.

 

[lacklusterplus]

I don't care how good the rep or homage is people will know that you do not have a 50 year old panerai that is worth $50,000 or more.

Some dials were brown some were black. There is lots of variation. They are all "old style" sandwich dials however. You need to look a little closer at that photo you provided. I have 100's of photos of panerai of this era and yes they are "old style" sandwich dials.

That is good information. Thanks.

For me, it wouldn't be believable that I would have a very limited production, very expensive watch. Also I don't want to go around advertizing that it is a fake because some people have attitude about that. So, I think I would likely get a sterile dial.

I just really like the look of that particular model. Did they come with the large domed plexi glass as well? It seems this would be a good vintage project. I would like to get the dial, lume and hands all aged looking.

 

[Cucumber_Jones]

This is your first day here and you are on the right track. This is a vintage project many of us have done.

There are lots of examples here.

Lots of learning for you - what fun you will have.

 

[lacklusterplus]

Great. I will have to put the search function to good use.

 

[Cucumber_Jones]

Look at the #3 in this gen photo - look sandwich to you there?

 

[lacklusterplus]

Look at the #3 in this gen photo - look sandwich to you there?

Just barely, but yes.

 

[hooligan]

Wow, look at those ultra-skinny hands!

That dial is F-A-D-E-D!

 

[lacklusterplus]

Any special procedures to quickly "age" or fade a modern sandwich dial?

Adding patina to the hands should be easy. Getting vintage lume is also easy.

Finding a nice, vintage movement would be really cool. I would like to learn how to assemble it. Then I would probably take the time to blue the screws/wheels and maybe get some of the bridges electroplated.

 

[Cucumber_Jones]

No vintage panerai movement that I know of has blued screws. You the dial can be aged... Trade secrets of the artists that reside here.

 

[lacklusterplus]

I wouldn't need the movement to be authentic appearance to the orignal. It would just be a fun project to take it apart and dress it up a bit.

 

[Cucumber_Jones]

Sorry friend - all your other posts were questioning how authentic you could get the replica's - I assumed that that would carry over to the movement too.

 

[hooligan]

You, sir, are a wealth of knowledge. Thanks, Enzo! I, for one, LIKE the skinny hands look.

What are the chances we'll see Davidsen offer some skinnier hands............? :twisted:

 

[ThumbModds]

Wow, look at those ultra-skinny hands!

That dial is F-A-D-E-D!

Original Rolex hands, note the points to the swords, how long they are ... No one gets the hands right on vintage reps, they are all too modern - and these were all pocket watch and clock hands taken from the original movement sources.

There are two basics, Rolex and Angelus variations. Rolex have the most variety - but as you say tend to be narrow blades and are always notched on the bottom. Some times laddered and even pointy-ended in the early 3346 and earlier's sword tips. Come in black steel and gold.

Angelus are not notched, [except the ones that are! Those look almost identical to Rolex, but shorter] Generally gold, either rounded blades or flat. Fatter than the Rolex they are what the modern hands are based on.

Enzo,

This is a honest question, How long have you been into panerai and how long have you been into watches.
Every time you answer a question about a Pam or Pam related issue it is spot on and delivered with more knowledge than I have ever seen before.

I really am glad to be a member here, so I to can have resources of information about watches and people like you that have the answers to the hard questions that most uf us can't find answers to.

Thank you for being so generous and sharing the knowledge you bring to the group.:wink:

 

[hooligan]

Ugh, those ARE ugly! :lol:

 

[lacklusterplus]

Sorry friend - all your other posts were questioning how authentic you could get the replica's - I assumed that that would carry over to the movement too.

I understand that.

Basically I have a couple ideas. One would be a vintage piece similar to the one I posted a picture of. Ideally for me at least, this project would be about making the watch myself. Aging the dial, aging the hands, finding a vintage movement and skeletonizing it or otherwise modding it. Then again, I would be just as happy finding a nice vintage movement that is period realistic for the watch and keeping it original.

I would be happy with either route. Since I am not as knowledgeable about these things as others, I need to get more info before I can decide. I appreciate all the help you have been.