Just wondering how to verify a Swiss movement from Asian on a 6497. Any help or pics would be awesome
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how to verify swiss in 6497
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This is a Swiss 6497...
1. Novodiac shock protection instead of the Asian's Incabloc (Incabloc is better and per gen)
2. Less teeth on this gear, versus the Asian which will many more teeth
3. The Swiss will have circular indentations in these 2 spots.... the Asian won't
Also, the straight spokes of the balance wheel versus the flared spokes of the Asian... the flared spokes are per gen too...
1. Novodiac shock protection instead of the Asian's Incabloc (Incabloc is better and per gen)
2. Less teeth on this gear, versus the Asian which will many more teeth
3. The Swiss will have circular indentations in these 2 spots.... the Asian won't
Also, the straight spokes of the balance wheel versus the flared spokes of the Asian... the flared spokes are per gen too...
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I definitely have the two indentations. The other stuff looks right but its hard to tell with the movement running
Now my next question. How much would you guys pay for this? Does DSN use this movement because it is one of his watches
I definitely have the two indentations. The other stuff looks right but its hard to tell with the movement running
Now my next question. How much would you guys pay for this? Does DSN use this movement because it is one of his watches
DSN very seldomly uses Asian movements... so you have an 80% chance of having Swiss right there.... Novodiac shock protection should be the telltale as it is stationary...
As far as value, what model, etc?
As far as value, what model, etc?
DSN's come with pretty good lume out of the box so it doesn't make that much sense for it to be vaclumed.... but in trade value, assuming swiss DSN with vaclume, figure $450ish...
Is there such thing a swiss 6497 that is non-swan neck (i.e. do the closed back reps that have swiss movements have a swan neck)? If it has an novadiac, straight spokes, and eta stamp but no swan neck does that make it swiss? Lastly, what does swiss really mean? Is it that the components designs (novidiac vs incabaloc, straight vs flared) you mentioned above, or the fact that the components are machined AND assembled in Switzerland, or that the components are machined in China and assembled in Switzerland, or machined in Switzerland and assembled in China? Which is it?
Please refer to my article here:
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=51929
It does not answer your questions directly but gives you an idea.
So far there is not 100% Swiss 6497-2 out of box on a replica. However, the one that I can consider has the most number of genuine ETA 6497-1 is the one non swan neck movement has (like pictured on the link above).
If you see those fancy bridges from E/H series, I can consider those movement to be completely Asian or contains Swiss parts. Easiest tell is: Swiss 6497-1 has larger balance wheel and beats at 18000bph (on PAM reps so far). None of the Swiss movement comes with high beat (21,600bph) out of box. The shock protector does not necessarily means that it is not Swiss part.
Most if not all components made in China, assembled in most likely also in China (no matter Swiss or Asian).
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=51929
It does not answer your questions directly but gives you an idea.
So far there is not 100% Swiss 6497-2 out of box on a replica. However, the one that I can consider has the most number of genuine ETA 6497-1 is the one non swan neck movement has (like pictured on the link above).
If you see those fancy bridges from E/H series, I can consider those movement to be completely Asian or contains Swiss parts. Easiest tell is: Swiss 6497-1 has larger balance wheel and beats at 18000bph (on PAM reps so far). None of the Swiss movement comes with high beat (21,600bph) out of box. The shock protector does not necessarily means that it is not Swiss part.
Most if not all components made in China, assembled in most likely also in China (no matter Swiss or Asian).